Peter grimes
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I wouldn’t be shocked or disappointed to see McQuillan selected against Fermanagh. The lad has a lot of convincing still to do but let the convincing commence.
Ulster Championship 2024
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Armaghball
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Yeah would have loved to see more of him in the league. Brings pace which is something we dont have a whole pile of.
Forker is in the same boat as Rian, neither is playing well compared to what they can do, but ultimately we’ll need them in an ulster final so should try let them play themselves into a bit of form. No point dropping them now and hoping they can find their form in the final. I’d say murnin and grugan are the opposite, they haven’t really done much wrong but I don’t think resting them against Fermanagh would do any harm.
I disagree with your view on forker he has been great all league except the final and think he is perfect for number 6 as he has vision and not afraid to pass unlike others. He didn't have a great final but not many did, he was great all league (I know standard was poor) I don't think anyone 2 people on here will agree with a starting 15. Burns for me has been great but I'd have mccambridge and Morgan all day over him tbh, same with some of the forwards Rian and oisin have to start, maybe Rian in midfield as someone suggested might be worth a go
Peter grimes
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And I disagree with that.
I referred earlier to what an on form Forker brings to the team. I would love to have that. The bit I disagree with is his form throughout the league. To me he is off the pace a little (maybe carrying a niggle or has a regime aimed at peaking later?), I don’t think he is being deployed in the sweeper role any more (that seems to be a mix of McKay and McCabe, depending on the make up of the opposition attack) and I don’t think he is using his kick passing game of old. A lot of his kick passes are sidewards or barely forward to an unmarked player on the wing. McCabe is more direct imho. He is one of the players who has the confidence to take on the posts from distance and that remains in the positive side of ledger.
I don’t think he has been awful or anything close to that but the bigger point is that we need to rethink the middle third and also how quick we transition the ball whilst also having a fielding and a running option.
We all seem to agree that we will have depth. That means we will have strong players on the bench. I think that Forker is in the mix rather than being nailed on. I have a lot of faith in McCabe and growing confidence in Conor O’Neill and McElroy. That is maybe where I would look.
Armaghball
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Think if everyone is 100% fit and in top form nailed on starters and everyone would probably agree are Forker, Grugan, Murnin and Rian. Oisin O’Neill on top form starts as well. Soupy either starting or held as an impact sub. After that theres probably discussions to be had depending on your preference.
My dream team would probably be
Blaine
Morgan
McKay
Forker
C O’Neill
McCabe
Mackin
Grimley
O’Neill
Soupy
Grugan
Duffy
Murnin
O’Neill
Conaty
Then
Burns
McGrane
McCambridge
McQuillan
McPartlan
Crealey
McElroy
Nugent
Turbitt
Could all very easily start there as well. (You could probably ask me again tomorrow and a few of those boys would start). Thats not a prediction team or even a team I’d like to see start vs Fermanagh, but just what I think is our strongest 15
My dream team would probably be
Blaine
Morgan
McKay
Forker
C O’Neill
McCabe
Mackin
Grimley
O’Neill
Soupy
Grugan
Duffy
Murnin
O’Neill
Conaty
Then
Burns
McGrane
McCambridge
McQuillan
McPartlan
Crealey
McElroy
Nugent
Turbitt
Could all very easily start there as well. (You could probably ask me again tomorrow and a few of those boys would start). Thats not a prediction team or even a team I’d like to see start vs Fermanagh, but just what I think is our strongest 15
ragingbull
Well-Known Member
Cavan would have beaten Armagh today 
Armaghball
Well-Known Member
Just goes to show the league doesn’t mean much when it comes to championship form. Cavan were woeful against us.
Hope Hughes isn’t too badly hurt, looked nasty and he doesn’t deserve to end his career like that. A great servant for club and county for years.
Hope Hughes isn’t too badly hurt, looked nasty and he doesn’t deserve to end his career like that. A great servant for club and county for years.
ragingbull
Well-Known Member
The championship is a whole new ball game
Patrick-Armagh
Well-Known Member
Some big shocks yesterday. Westmeath going down to Wicklow. Cavan getting one over on Monaghan. Waterford beating Tipperary. We'd want to be fully tuned in on Sunday and get the job done, so we aren't on the list of teams that slipped up.
Would love to see Oisin take Armagh, he would be brilliant
Armaghball
Well-Known Member
Seems to have done a good job with Wicklow.
McNulty and McEntee could be options as well down the line?
Ná habair é
Member
Joe McQuillan to ref Armagh v Fermanagh.
Getting in early. Ref was a disgrace. Too many soft frees for Fermanagh. Didn't let the game flow. Was never a red card. Where did he get all the injury time from
gael_force_orchard
Well-Known Member
Folks the team people want to see start v the team that starts are two very very different things.
In my opinion there won't be a pile of change from the league line ups. It won't be too far different from this:
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McGrane
Forker
McCabe
J og Burns/McCambridge
Crealey
Mackin
McElroy
Grugan
R o Neill/Burns/McCambridge
Conaty
Murnin
Turbitt
Nobody outside of the 16 players I have mentioned there, are going to start this game. We aren't going to change the system or the way we play just to accommodate a few forwards we think should be starting. Rafferty is not starting in nets and he isn't going to get a run out at midfield or the half forward line either. Morgan isn't going to appear from nowhere. We will beat Fermanagh, because they are truly atrocious, I don't even think this fermanagh team have it in them to be as dogged as usual. They just aren't up to it. We will get a better test against down.
In my opinion there won't be a pile of change from the league line ups. It won't be too far different from this:
Hughes
Burns
McKay
McGrane
Forker
McCabe
J og Burns/McCambridge
Crealey
Mackin
McElroy
Grugan
R o Neill/Burns/McCambridge
Conaty
Murnin
Turbitt
Nobody outside of the 16 players I have mentioned there, are going to start this game. We aren't going to change the system or the way we play just to accommodate a few forwards we think should be starting. Rafferty is not starting in nets and he isn't going to get a run out at midfield or the half forward line either. Morgan isn't going to appear from nowhere. We will beat Fermanagh, because they are truly atrocious, I don't even think this fermanagh team have it in them to be as dogged as usual. They just aren't up to it. We will get a better test against down.
Ed Ricketts
Active Member
I think you're kinda right, but I'd throw Conor O'Neill and Stefan Campbell into the equation too. Both started several league games and, if they're fit, it wouldn't be at all surprising to see them line out on Sunday. Connaire Mackin also as likely to be a starting option around the middle 8 as McCambridge - both have seen similar game time to date this year.
gael_force_orchard
Well-Known Member
If fit then c o Neill will maybe play a part, but I think McGeeney is now settled on what he wants. But I think Campbell's legs will be saved, he won't start.
Armaghball
Well-Known Member
Yeah I think you could be right. Although McPartlan came from nowhere last year to start in the championship so who knows.