2020 league

PatMustard

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Oooooh look at you all techie!! Did the grandchild #37 feed you some internet info at Christmas??

I had a quick look over the wife’s shoulder of her on Facebook... before she threw her hand back and slapped me. I’m well up with the aul technology now, boyo.
 

Big Jim

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I had a quick look over the wife’s shoulder of her on Facebook... before she threw her hand back and slapped me. I’m well up with the aul technology now, boyo.
I hear ya! I once looked over wifeys shoulder at something the was reading on socialist media. Four weeks later when the swelling went down and I was taken out of the induced coma...............!
 

Big Jim

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Patrick-Armagh

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You might want come to an agreement with the AFL but why would they come to any such agreement? What would motivate them any more than First Derivatives (in the example I cited) to cough up?

For me you are still in red herring territory here
Cause they are actively pursuing the best young Gaelic footballers in Ireland and not financial consultants. There is absolutely nothing that clubs, counties and the GAA can do to stop it. But if the two bodies have a good relationship, which they say they do, then the GAA should be making the case that the work clubs counties put in to develop these players, which the AFL will profit off and don't pay a penny for is hardly fair. Beyond that, there is nothing they can.
 
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niall1980

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Cause they actively pursuing the best young Gaelic footballers in Ireland and financial consultants. There is absolutely nothing that clubs, counties and the GAA can do to stop it. But if the two bodies have a good relationship, which they say they do, then the GAA should be making the case that the work clubs counties put in to develop these players, which the AFL will profit off and don't pay a penny for is hardly fair. Beyond that, there is nothing they can.
It’s really nothing to do woth the GAA. AFL clubs will continue to do it no matter what kind of relationship they have with the GAA
 

Patrick-Armagh

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It’s really nothing to do woth the GAA. AFL clubs will continue to do it no matter what kind of relationship they have with the GAA
That's why the GAA would have to come to some sort of agreement with the AFL themselves which clubs would have to follow. I don't get the backlash to the idea of the GAA trying to negotiate something with the AFL? They would more than likely be refused, but there could start to be some sort of movement towards agreements over player recruitment. It's better that they have a good working relationship with the AFL that could lead to something in the future, than just cutting themselves off altogether, as people like Mickey Harte have suggest and then not being able to discuss anything with them at all.
 

Peter grimes

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That's why the GAA would have to come to some sort of agreement with the AFL themselves which clubs would have to follow. I don't get the backlash to the idea of the GAA trying to negotiate something with the AFL? They would more than likely be refused, but there could start to be some sort of movement towards agreements over player recruitment. It's better that they have a good working relationship with the AFL that could lead to something in the future, than just cutting themselves off altogether, as people like Mickey Harte have suggest and then not being able to discuss anything with them at all.


This all started with talk of compensation. Not one thing has been suggested that increases the likelihood of the Aussie clubs or the AFL paying compensation. That debate remains a red herring.

Maybe some think that whilst compensation may not be achievable then maybe the GAA should try for some kind of pact with AFL to stop them offering jobs to Irish lads. Again I cannot see what the Aussie incentive is to agree to this?

There is no point saying that because GAA don’t like something that they should rock up to the AFL and say please don’t do it. There is no Aussie incentive to say yes.

Not liking something isn’t enough to expect to get your way. I don’t like the fact that it’s dark when my kids walk country roads when they get off the bus. Do you think I should try to broker an agreement with the sun?
 

Big Jim

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This all started with talk of compensation. Not one thing has been suggested that increases the likelihood of the Aussie clubs or the AFL paying compensation. That debate remains a red herring.

Maybe some think that whilst compensation may not be achievable then maybe the GAA should try for some kind of pact with AFL to stop them offering jobs to Irish lads. Again I cannot see what the Aussie incentive is to agree to this?

There is no point saying that because GAA don’t like something that they should rock up to the AFL and say please don’t do it. There is no Aussie incentive to say yes.

Not liking something isn’t enough to expect to get your way. I don’t like the fact that it’s dark when my kids walk country roads when they get off the bus. Do you think I should try to broker an agreement with the sun?
To be fair The Sun, nor any of the british tabloids for that matter, like the Irish (except the money spent on their toilet rolls) so getting an agreement with them is as likely as aussies not asking GAA players to nip over for a game and some cash - although they probably prefer not to hand over cash either!
 
Whats the craic with McKay, Clarke & Murnin?? Don't have them in here as cant see them starting if not played any McKenna cup games.

Hughes
Hughes Morgan Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Hall Soupy Oisin
Turbitt Rian Grugan

Oisin has to be played closer to goal. With Cross & the Ranch, he done most damage when able to hit scores.

If everyone back, I'd have

Hughes
Hughes McKay Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Soupy O.O'Neill Grugan
Clarke Rian Murnin

Jesus lads that's a serious fwd line. That means dropping Hall,Nugent,Turbitt. Defence weak with only really Morgan to come in.
 

gael_force_orchard

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Whats the craic with McKay, Clarke & Murnin?? Don't have them in here as cant see them starting if not played any McKenna cup games.

Hughes
Hughes Morgan Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Hall Soupy Oisin
Turbitt Rian Grugan

Oisin has to be played closer to goal. With Cross & the Ranch, he done most damage when able to hit scores.

If everyone back, I'd have

Hughes
Hughes McKay Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Soupy O.O'Neill Grugan
Clarke Rian Murnin

Jesus lads that's a serious fwd line. That means dropping Hall,Nugent,Turbitt. Defence weak with only really Morgan to come in.
What about Patrick Burns in defence? Surely he is still around the panel and I think he is a very decent corner back.
 

niall1980

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Whats the craic with McKay, Clarke & Murnin?? Don't have them in here as cant see them starting if not played any McKenna cup games.

Hughes
Hughes Morgan Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Hall Soupy Oisin
Turbitt Rian Grugan

Oisin has to be played closer to goal. With Cross & the Ranch, he done most damage when able to hit scores.

If everyone back, I'd have

Hughes
Hughes McKay Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Soupy O.O'Neill Grugan
Clarke Rian Murnin

Jesus lads that's a serious fwd line. That means dropping Hall,Nugent,Turbitt. Defence weak with only really Morgan to come in.
Clarke has been at both McKenna games with a lot of others. Just not kitted our. McKay was there last night too. Think he was suspended from last year. Murnin is injures
 

Throwball

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Clarke has been at both McKenna games with a lot of others. Just not kitted our. McKay was there last night too. Think he was suspended from last year. Murnin is injures

You could be right about McKay. Think he got suspended for getting his head beat off him without landing a serious blow in defence - typical Armagh lately :p
 

Patrick-Armagh

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This all started with talk of compensation. Not one thing has been suggested that increases the likelihood of the Aussie clubs or the AFL paying compensation. That debate remains a red herring.

Maybe some think that whilst compensation may not be achievable then maybe the GAA should try for some kind of pact with AFL to stop them offering jobs to Irish lads. Again I cannot see what the Aussie incentive is to agree to this?

There is no point saying that because GAA don’t like something that they should rock up to the AFL and say please don’t do it. There is no Aussie incentive to say yes.

Not liking something isn’t enough to expect to get your way. I don’t like the fact that it’s dark when my kids walk country roads when they get off the bus. Do you think I should try to broker an agreement with the sun?
There is no point saying? Thought this was a discussion board? Broker an agreement with the sun? That's a good comparison. It may well not be possible, but I don't see it being a red herring that they can't bring up with the AFL. The GAA could argue that we coach and develop these players to a point that make them valuable commodities which AFL clubs can make a serious amount of money from, so is it fair that we do a lot of the heavy lifting and you then come and reap the benefits? The AFL could say, no it's not fair, what can we do? They most likely would say, it's not fair, but that's just the way it is. But to be arguing that they shouldn't even bother or what's the point definitely helps. This will just go on and on, both making the same arguments.
 
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Armaghball

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Whats the craic with McKay, Clarke & Murnin?? Don't have them in here as cant see them starting if not played any McKenna cup games.

Hughes
Hughes Morgan Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Hall Soupy Oisin
Turbitt Rian Grugan

Oisin has to be played closer to goal. With Cross & the Ranch, he done most damage when able to hit scores.

If everyone back, I'd have

Hughes
Hughes McKay Shields
Forker Donaghy McCabe
Grimley JOB
Soupy O.O'Neill Grugan
Clarke Rian Murnin

Jesus lads that's a serious fwd line. That means dropping Hall,Nugent,Turbitt. Defence weak with only really Morgan to come in.
Like the look of your second team there with maybe Burns and Morgan in for McCabe and McKay. Would still find a place for Jemar in half forward though as he was outstanding last year and very underrated, maybe hold Soupy back as an impact sub. Agree on O O’Neill, need him around the 45 where he can kick points all day. Potential is there again, hopefully can deliver this year.
 

armaghtimmy

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Hughes
Morgan mckay burns
hughes donaghy forker
JOB Grimley
Hall Grugan Oisin
Clarke Rian Shields

Iv put shields in there to drop back as cover for donaghy, and too pick up runners coming through which we struggle with. In possession he can break forward at pace, or let hughes get forward and cover for him.

Unfortunately someone had to drop and that is murin given all his injury worries of late. That could change very quickly as he is a class act on song. Any two from hall, grugan, campbell and nugent depending on current form.

Squad is probably a bit top heavy so hopefully we can get experience into finding a few defenders and battle harden them in the league as cover is light in this area in my opinion.

Strong bench;
Bug
murin
Campbell
Nugent
Kennedy
turbitt
mc cabe
mc elroy
duffy
rafferty
 
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