2020 season - write off?
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ragingbull
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An make sure you clean their shit up after them,just saying
Big Jim
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I gotta be honest, I was thinking much the same myself. It's got me convinced now, if anything were to happen, it'll almost certainly be behind closed doors, but again I wonder would that be a viable option with all the expense incurred. TV won't have the budget or facilities to broadcast/stream ALL games as their revenue will be massively reduced too and it'd be unlikely that sponsors would have the budget to do it either as they'd likely be asked to increase the spend to cover costs and without the same levels of increase in income, may be reluctant to change terms.
Looking back at the GAA recent statement, it could mean the end/suspension for this year of county games, with the emphasis on club and club championship. It'd certainly be much easier to maintain the 5000 or less at those games for the most part.
Certainly strange times ahead, never mind now.
PatMustard
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@Big Jim - I don’t see the sense in having big games played behind closed doors games. Unless you test all the players/management etc and quarantine them for days before a game.
Otherwise, a player could pick up the virus from a teammate/opponent. That player then goes back home, and spread it to a child/partner, who may be asthmatic, diabetic, have a compromised immune system etc. Would a player want to take that chance?
Yes, fans will be safe because we’d all be at home, but players/officials etc won’t be.
Otherwise, a player could pick up the virus from a teammate/opponent. That player then goes back home, and spread it to a child/partner, who may be asthmatic, diabetic, have a compromised immune system etc. Would a player want to take that chance?
Yes, fans will be safe because we’d all be at home, but players/officials etc won’t be.
Big Jim
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Yeah I get ya, but remember I'm basing this on the assumption that up to 5000 people will be allowed to attend events at that stage so the risk level will already have been deemed to be low. Constant testing of everyone in the run up to the restart and during the following weeks of competition could and should be put in place as a matter of course - it's not the first time we've heard of a team being struck down with a virus/bug just before a big game. I can certainly remember Armagh being affected by one in the not too distant past.
If things were to carry on as you suggest infinitum then nothing in terms of sports and entertainment will ever return as there's forever gonna be a risk even with a vaccination - the flu vaccine isn't taken up 100% as some people don't trust it either. remember this is coming from someone who IS diabetic with a heart condition. Let's be fair, if we take the "but there's a risk" attitude, will we ever be able to resume these schedules? Do we wait a year, two years, five years?? How will we know for certain the risk is minimised? Because the government say they've taken advice?? There are some fantastic scientists out there within our own communities who are giving out great advice. It's well documented that "those who have the power" haven't listened properly all the time.
A point will have to come when things start to "restart". Our organisation, Rugby, Soccer, Golf, Boxing, Athletics and all, will not survive a couple of years of this. Six months will be a stretch as there's already clubs within our association struggling because their social clubs that kept them ticking over are closed.
I certainly don't have any answers, only suggestions. They may not be correct and maybe we never will get to return to social sports, but one thing I'm certain of, I'd not want to return to normal. I'd like a new normal and yes that means the best protection of our players/officials, athletes and all of our family members. Sadly we could drive to a game and never make it there or home. There is a risk in almost everything we do. All we can do as a human race, is minimise it and carry on.
Eireogatron
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The season will be written off unless there is a major vaccine breakthrough in the next 3 months. The most prudent thing I can envisage is doing a completion of the leagues behind closed doors or restricted crowds in sept/Oct or even November and starting afresh in February. That way the integrity of the league this year is in tact and counties can plan accordingly for a full 2021 season
JoeH
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I would disagree
I believe our adult leagues/championship will start June-ish and finish by August to allow inter county to go ahead
Our own club leagues could continue on through September and october, with weather, restrictions being concerns
I think underage games will not be played maybe u16/17 games. Main reason being that there may well be a severe lack of match officials.
I think school football will also fall
I think provincial club will also fall
Next year no McKenna cup with the national league on hold dependent on a vaccine
The GAA organization needs cash, the counties need cash and clubs need cash
One cant assist the other without cash
A vaccine will help to assist peoples confidence but most vaccines still have a fail rate.
Schools will reopen, churches will reopen and as various industries - construction, hardware stores, personal hygiene(barbers etc) people will come into contact more.
Many commentators, ministers are saying now we will have to live with the virus.
I can see all inter county games becoming all ticket with reduced attendances so that social distancing can take place
We cant cocoon forever.
These restrictions were put in place to ensure every countries health service didnt get overrun and by and large they havent
Once a country can cope with anticipated cases they will reopen. Economic reasons as well as mental.health and a degree of normality will dictate this.
Take a step back and read the evidence of where we were 8weeks ago, 4 weeks ago and today. Read the rhetoric from governments and scientists worldwide
What they say last week will change next week
Its moving that fast.
When we go back to work there will be new protocols - these will change over the next few weeks.
Yes there will be more infections but the health services should be able to cope - thas what the governments want.
Eireogatron
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Not a hope we're playing club or county football in June, it's less than 6 weeks away. Hope I'm wrong but I doubt it
armaghforsam
Member
My view would be "how could you justify shutting the country down for so many weeks or months and then allowing for talk sake 30 players and management from cross travelling to maghery. 30 plus people in close contact in the changing rooms of each team. 30 plus players in physical contact over the course of an hour. Players from same team coming in close contact at half time and full time sweating after strenuous activity. Players sharing a shower. Then the 30 plus people from cross jump in a car and drive back to cross and head to about 25 plus different houses. For me there is too much chance of contamination. You then multiply this effect by 25 senior matches in Armagh with the same numbers involved. Multiplied by 32 counties. After 3 or 4 months of sacrifice and hard work you could be back to square one or worse after 2 weeks of fixtures in Ireland. I hope I am wrong as I am a senior football manager and have been pulling my hair out from the 11th March, the last time we met as a collective group
5000 people or 5 people. It just takes 1 person to have it and the whole thing starts all over again. Cancel the whole year. That’s my opinion. Was @armaghforsam says is spot on. It’s not worth the risk
JoeH
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So what do you do with work, schools, churches and other places?
Does anyone believe that schools, universities etc will not be open in September? What about parks, the high street shopping?
If I was over a team I'd tell them to arrive togged out, give them their own jersey to look after and talk to them at training. We will change this fire n brimstone changing room roar - players will know the team via whatsapp or something
Only allow starting 15 into changing rooms before and allow the playing 15 at ht. Shower at home after the game.
If you recall at the start of this it was 100indoors, 500 outside.
Irish gov has now said 5000 outside not permitted under license (they mandated councils to refuse such licenses which would include concerts etc.. )until September so that gives you an insight to what maybe coming between may and end of august.
Does anyone believe that schools, universities etc will not be open in September? What about parks, the high street shopping?
If I was over a team I'd tell them to arrive togged out, give them their own jersey to look after and talk to them at training. We will change this fire n brimstone changing room roar - players will know the team via whatsapp or something
Only allow starting 15 into changing rooms before and allow the playing 15 at ht. Shower at home after the game.
If you recall at the start of this it was 100indoors, 500 outside.
Irish gov has now said 5000 outside not permitted under license (they mandated councils to refuse such licenses which would include concerts etc.. )until September so that gives you an insight to what maybe coming between may and end of august.
armaghforsam
Member
In work and at MASS etc you are not in physical contact with a person who is sweating, spitting, blowing their nose on the ground, rubbing his hand in your face, grabbing your arm, pulling your shirt and shorts etc. Much more physical contact in sport and much more secretion of bodily fluids that risks spreading infection. Look I hope I am wrong but I don't think the experts will allow it before the turn of next year.
JoeH
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So lets follow your retort - what will have changed between now and the turn.of the year?
armaghforsam
Member
A vaccine perhaps?
JoeH
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Read https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-system/covid-19-alert-system/#alert-level-1-–-prepare
This explains what they are planning.
Germany, Denmark and other countries are cautiously lifting restrictions.
Dont underestimate the economic and mental health needs at this time.
This explains what they are planning.
Germany, Denmark and other countries are cautiously lifting restrictions.
Dont underestimate the economic and mental health needs at this time.
armaghforsam
Member
I was maybe thinking professional sport and may be to a certain degree county football/hurling with team doctors etc that if a test becomes readily available over the coming weeks or months that is effective that both playing teams and support staff could be tested and if all cone back negative then the match goes ahead behind closed doors. Obviously at club level I think this would be impossible to do. Also the brit gov are only testing 20,000 people per day at the minute so how long will it be until tests would be available to allow sporting fixtures to go ahead as I may be suggested they might. Everything is up in the air and none of us have a clue but my view is that I don't think there will be much if any gaa in 2020 unfortunately
PatMustard
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No offence to anyone, but my head’s melting reading all this. It’s too bloody overwhelming. I’m sorry now I participated 
I’m away to stick my head back in the sand. Someone give me a nudge when we’re due to play again.
I’m away to stick my head back in the sand. Someone give me a nudge when we’re due to play again.
ragingbull
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I don't miss the football at all just saying