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2nd tier championship

Discussion in 'General GAA Discussion' started by ragingbull, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. ragingbull

    ragingbull Well-Known Member

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    What's your thoughts on 2nd tier championship
  2. PatMustard

    PatMustard Well-Known Member

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    No surprise it’s here.

    A load of balls.
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  4. Peter grimes

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    It’s a wait and see for me.

    Next years NFL Division 2 will be a dog fight. Especially for ulster counties.

    If Tier 2 gets buy in and crowds it can work. If it doesn’t hit the ground running it will be difficult to turn this ship around. Players opting out, heading to America and missing club championships would be a disaster.

    If we are to go down this route then it needs central support. Ticket prices need to attract a crowd. TV must back it. And don’t put it up against the big football or hurling matches. Get it wrong at outset and the game could be up before meaningful action can be taken
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  5. PatMustard

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    Players are already opting out and heading to the US when they lose in the championship. But they’re still in the AI race.

    If they don’t stick around while still in for Sam, why would they stick around for a tier 2 trophy?

    It won’t be properly marketed. It’ll be like the lower tier hurling competitions. And as you say, there’s no turning this ship around, if it doesn’t hit the ground running.
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  6. Peter grimes

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    I share many of your concerns but to be frank don’t like the general attitude.

    In hurling most of the counties involved the 3 lesser competitions never entered the senior competition in the first place and never “competed” in a meaningful sense at a senior level. Hurling was a minority pursuit in those counties long before the invention of the tiered competitions. Crowds haven’t fallen away. They weren’t there in the first place.

    The parallel with football is not exact.

    If the football community are left with this competition with all its faults it would be better to try to make a success of it than to not
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    Think something obviously needs to be changed. Putting Offaly in the same competition as Dublin is like putting O’Halon’s in the same competition as Cross. No disrespect but they haven’t a hope. Senior, Intermediate and Junior is probably the fairest way to go. Although I like the idea of the world cup format, 8 groups of 4 top 2 into the A championship and bottom 2 into the B.

    A really interesting one though would be 32 county random draw straight knockout. (Although we’d get Kerry away while Tyrone would get Wicklow at home of course.)
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    That is the format that should have been trialled for 3 years.
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    Really not sure that one go and you are out system is anything other than a recruiting Sargent for the North American summer league

    Trialling systems I’m for though. Sitting back and doing nothing isn’t an option. Public and player buy in are key. Float ideas and trial them. See what works.
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  10. Armaghball

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    Yeah I’d say you’re right there. But imagine an open draw knockout, you’d get some class draws and could see likes of ourselves making a semi final with a kind draw. Never gonna happen though.
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    Nope, it’s not.
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