All Ireland Series 2025

[PatMustard]

Come on now lads, school isn't back for another few weeks. I say spend less time on spelling and gram her and spend more time in the pub. Cheers

They won't serve me. Apparently I don't look 18. Will you get us a carry-out? We could drink it in that den the four of us built.

 

[portadownarmaghfan]

Sure Lee. I'll get the carry out, den we'll hit the den.

 

[winsamsoon]

Sure Lee. I'll get the carry out, den we'll hit the den.

Think we've reached an all time low

 

[Armaghniac]

Already looking forward to them coming to the AG in the league, hopefully we give them a similar type of welcome to the one they gave us in Tralee earlier this year, by knocking lumps out of them and setting down a marker for 2026.

Knocking lumps out of them is optional, getting our revenge on the scoreboard is not.

 

[Patrick-Armagh]

I find the 3 up rule particularly difficult to get my head around. The reason being that it brings artificiality into the game, if that's the right expression, which can lead to a ridiculous situation where a player can't take a step to go for a ball near to him in the knowledge that he'll break the 3 up rule. For me this also restricts a team's freedom to use the system of play they want to use. Taking away a team/coach's freedom to innovate and develop their own style of play is a very worrying precedent to set imo and goes against the natural order of things and leaves the structure of the game at the whim of individuals who are swayed by the media or in their eyes popular opinion. I don't know of any other sport, certainly not soccer anyway, that has gone to these lengths (maybe there are other examples out there that i'm not aware of). Less drastic changes could have been made to reward more forward thinking teams.

Isn't this the case for most team sports where there are rules which govern where players can and cannot be on the pitch, field, court or rink? I would have thought that the three up rule was just a version of that and those don't seem to be artificial. It's just a way of keeping a sense of shape and order to the game. Obviously we are used to a game where players could go wherever they wanted and that's what made it exciting. But ever since the days of packed defences came in, it's also what made it so terrible to watch.

 

[Armamike]

Isn't this the case for most team sports where there are rules which govern where players can and cannot be on the pitch, field, court or rink? I would have thought that the three up rule was just a version of that and those don't seem to be artificial. It's just a way of keeping a sense of shape and order to the game. Obviously we are used to a game where players could go wherever they wanted and that's what made it exciting. But ever since the days of packed defences came in, it's also what made it so terrible to watch.

In this case we are talking about a game that has been fundamentally altered in its structure as opposed to games that have had a particular structure since their beginnings.

 

[Patrick-Armagh]

In this case we are talking about a game that has been fundamentally altered in its structure as opposed to games that have had a particular structure since their beginnings.

Fair point. Did these sports have these kind of rules from their inception or did they evolve into the game over time? I think that AFL introduced rules within the last few years that fundamentally changed it, because people were tired of how it was being played. But maybe those games saw flaws that came into how it was being played and looked to fix it earlier in it's history. When you think of Gaelic Football, having a three man full forward line that stayed up the pitch was still traditionally how the game was played for decades. Obviously it wasn't an enforced rule, but full forwards did get to operate in space 25 years ago and that's what people loved to see.

 

[JoeH]

Fair point. Did these sports have these kind of rules from their inception or did they evolve into the game over time? I think that AFL introduced rules within the last few years that fundamentally changed it, because people were tired of how it was being played. But maybe those games saw flaws that came into how it was being played and looked to fix it earlier in it's history. When you think of Gaelic Football, having a three man full forward line that stayed up the pitch was still traditionally how the game was played for decades. Obviously it wasn't an enforced rule, but full forwards did get to operate in space 25 years ago and that's what people loved to see.

I think the two most important words are 'evolve' and 'enforced'
Our game evolves all the time - typically by teams changing their styles or improving what they have.
Enforcing changes will mean no room to evolve and that to me is what is fundamentally wrong with what has been done. Restricting movement of players and, if we believe what the sandbox games were looking at, restricting the movement of the ball will only allow for all teams to play the same way

Is that what we want?

 

[Armaghniac]

In this case we are talking about a game that has been fundamentally altered in its structure as opposed to games that have had a particular structure since their beginnings.

In the early days of the GAA they did not put in a rule about keeping 3 players in your own half of the field because they envisaged a game where players mostly did stay in one half of the field. In hurling they changed the penalty after one Cork player found a way of taking penalties that negated the original intention.

 

[winsamsoon]

In the early days of the GAA they did not put in a rule about keeping 3 players in your own half of the field because they envisaged a game where players mostly did stay in one half of the field. In hurling they changed the penalty after one Cork player found a way of taking penalties that negated the original intention.

It's only a matter of time before we see a player chipping the ball 2 yards from the penalty spot and another running from behind to gather it and blast it to the net, its slowly becoming silly season with the constant talk and tinkering of the rules.

 

[Ouch It’s Francie]

We can argue this till the cows come home. Has it improved the game, has it not? With 48+ rule changes imposed, it is the equivalent of throwing shit against a wall - some of it is bound to stick….

What’s fundamentally wrong is how our game was treated - all in the name of looks and entertainment. Plastic surgery for a plastic media. What’s wrong with a game that has some flaws? At least it’s real!!

 

[ShiftYa]

In the early days of the GAA they did not put in a rule about keeping 3 players in your own half of the field because they envisaged a game where players mostly did stay in one half of the field. In hurling they changed the penalty after one Cork player found a way of taking penalties that negated the original intention.

In the ‘early days’ they played:
21 men a side
No solo or bounce needed
Holding your opponents hand while the ball is thrown in.
throw ins instead of sideline kicks
Player can be sin-bined, can return at referees discretion
1 goal is more valuable than any amount of points
All free kicks from the ground

 

[armaghtimmy]

In the ‘early days’ they played:
21 men a side
No solo or bounce needed
Holding your opponents hand while the ball is thrown in.
throw ins instead of sideline kicks
Player can be sin-bined, can return at referees discretion
1 goal is more valuable than any amount of points
All free kicks from the ground

Wuda been some amount of gurning done on here if internet was around, when they done away with those rules

"WHAT YOU MEAN ONLY 15 A SIDE!!!"

 

[ragingbull]

https://allstars.irishnews.com/ do your all stars

 

[armaghtimmy]

https://allstars.irishnews.com/ do your all stars

 

[JoeH]

What's funny is Murphy never played at 8 or 9

 

[PatMustard]

Darragh McMullen had a great year. As did Ross McQuillan, although he didn’t get into the QF game.

Ethan had a great year too, just a few bad kick outs here and there. Although in some cases, you can’t really blame him, as kick outs are a lottery now.

Callum O’Neill and Tomas McCormack had very good Ulster series, but didn’t feature much after.

Conaty was absolutely majestic. That lad is a proper star. People raved about Clifford’s scores this year (and rightly so), but that Maradona-esque point he got against Dublin was one of the best you’ll ever see.

 

[ragingbull]

Ya have to laugh at Morgan not being on the goalkeeper list haha

 

[ragingbull]

 

[ArmaghMartin]

Beggan

Roarty
Mogan
McKernan

McQuillan
McGeary
McCarthy

Lagan
Murphy

Moore
Thompson
Conaty

Gallen
McCurry
Conor O'Donnell

Player off year Lagan