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POINTMAN

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gael_force_orchard said:
Have watched the video countless times, clear as day some are genuinely singing up armagh, however there are definitely up the ra in there as well from a few. We in the GAA and Armagh do not need to offer anyone sticks to beat us with. What sort of idiot (and i dont use the word lightly) decided to film and post that, an absolute betrayal of teamates and they should never represent our county again. Definitive action is needed on this, whether we like it or not, the county is now under scrutiny during what ahould have been a time for celebration.
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The person who videos this is rightly getting stick. But let's be honest - the fact the singing took place like that is really the issue. Indefensible and brings discredit and gives others a big stick to use.
 
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Kem

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Disappointing. Agree with what has been said. Ironically it is only a short time since there was outrage about the poster put up near the new East Belfast club claiming 'the GAA was the IRA at play". Well, do some of our idiots have to try and make it look like that is accurate. Haven't even the excuse of being drunk.
 
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h754136

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A bit of a shame that this discussion has taken over the thread on the Ladies Football team - a group of women that have brought nothing but pride to the county with their efforts this year. Maybe the admins could migrate the chat to a more appropriate location?
 
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niall1980

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h754136 said:
A bit of a shame that this discussion has taken over the thread on the Ladies Football team - a group of women that have brought nothing but pride to the county with their efforts this year. Maybe the admins could migrate the chat to a more appropriate location?
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Exactly. Let’s hope the ladies do us proud, again, at the weekend. Isn’t there a camogie thread anyway?
 
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GAAMAD

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Big Jim said:
Yeah you're probably right Pat, but if we keep saying that and no consequences, then we'll never suppress it. As I say, my biggest gripe is actually the fact that they took a phone out in the changing rooms and recorded that - Privacy issue and not even just a female thing. Then it's all about showing your mates in a bad light without recourse. I don't care who it was that did it. I still firmly believe that they have no place on, in or around a team. Unless that is enforced, this will continue and cannot be condoned regardless of the celebration or what was said.

Truest part you said - "common sense clearly doesn't come into play" Common sense ain't that common!! Oh and I get the "caught up in the moment with celebrating", but if the ground rules are there, ie. no phones in the changing area NO MATTER WHAT!! then that leaves it easy to deal with.

They\we are now left dealing with the press having a field day with what should be (and truly still is) a fantastic feel good day for the hard working girls of Armagh Camogie and especially after they had to deal with the shenanigans a few weeks back around their semi-final. Let's hope this blows over quickly.
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Well said
 
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Peter grimes

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Armaghball said:
1. It’s definitely Armagh they’re saying.
2. Big deal whatever version it it, let the usual gobshites get their knickers in a twist.
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I’m afraid you are wrong. There is a large section in the middle where they are clearly singing the Armagh version but the ‘Ra version is also there and clearly audible at the beginning and again at the end. So this will have to be acknowledged and dealt with.

Also I think you are misguided in your notion that it does not matter.

The Ra version will be offensive to many, including many gaels and it is damaging to our games and more particularly our organisation.
 
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Peter grimes

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h754136 said:
A bit of a shame that this discussion has taken over the thread on the Ladies Football team - a group of women that have brought nothing but pride to the county with their efforts this year. Maybe the admins could migrate the chat to a more appropriate location?
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Very true
 
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h754136

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Armaghball said:
1. It’s definitely Armagh they’re saying.
2. Big deal whatever version it it, let the usual gobshites get their knickers in a twist.
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1. It's definitely the 'Ra that is chanted several times in the video.

2. Chants exalting the 'Ra have no place anywhere in 2020, much less a GAA dressing room. The GAA is the best thing Ireland has ever produced, and by a country mile. A genuine community organisation that embraces, and has been embraced by, all sectors of the population across the country. It has been a force for cohesion and unity during the country's darkest days, and continues to bring together divided people especially in the north.

Sectarian chanting is the complete opposite of this. It is the complete opposite of what the GAA is all about. And to see it happen in the colours of our own county is distressing and shameful. This must never happen again, and anyone that doesn't appreciate why should consider handing in their membership until they have figured it out.
 
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PatMustard

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Armaghball said:
1. It’s definitely Armagh they’re saying.
2. Big deal whatever version it it, let the usual gobshites get their knickers in a twist.
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A lot of ordinary GAA members’ knickers will get in a twist over this, not just the likes of Nolan and the DUP.

Something like this could undo years of good work by GAA volunteers, cross community links etc.

You need to see the bigger picture here.
 
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niall1980

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h754136 said:
1. It's definitely the 'Ra that is chanted several times in the video.

2. Chants exalting the 'Ra have no place anywhere in 2020, much less a GAA dressing room. The GAA is the best thing Ireland has ever produced, and by a country mile. A genuine community organisation that embraces, and has been embraced by, all sectors of the population across the country. It has been a force for cohesion and unity during the country's darkest days, and continues to bring together divided people especially in the north.

Sectarian chanting is the complete opposite of this. It is the complete opposite of what the GAA is all about. And to see it happen in the colours of our own county is distressing and shameful. This must never happen again, and anyone that doesn't appreciate why should consider handing in their membership until they have figured it out.
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I agree with all that you’re saying but I would argue that rebel songs aren’t sectarian
 
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Peter grimes

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niall1980 said:
I agree with all that you’re saying but I would argue that rebel songs aren’t sectarian
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Technically correct there but you have to look at the impact.

if someone tried to convince me that singing “up the UDA” was not sectarian I would also have to accept that they were technically correct.

However I would regard both songs as disgusting and unhelpful in addressing the sectarian issues we have in society.
 
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