Is it time to consider new management?

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niall1980

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McCoyDromintee said:
I find that’s a very harsh summary.

First of all you’re right. Three staff filling 40 pages a week is extremely tough especially when one is on holiday.

However I feel we do an excellent job for variation.

In a standard 40 page edition you’ll generally find nine pages of club - given voices, interviews and team news from Crossmaglen to Corrinshego.

One of the best stable of columnists about in Joe Brolly, Kevin Cassidy, Gerard O’Kane, Cahal Carvill and Shane Elliott.

Also, a hugely-popular training zone offering advice on everything from strength and conditioning, mindsets and, recently following the arrival of Patrick Morrison, goalkeeping.

Then you’ll have an in focus interview getting a deep insight from that week’s guest. Next week for example I have a long interview with Alan Davidson. May seem a strange choice but it’s a cracking read - because of his honesty rather than any good writing I hasten to add.

Also, a club focus looking at a particular club in Ulster or afar.

On top of that you have regular county preview and news (nobody has broken more Armagh exclusives in the last five years than GL).

Then the paper is broken up with your take a break pages, your fantasy football.

I disagree strongly with the filling in with pointless words assessment and I find it hard to believe that any Ulster GAA fans wouldn’t find the product value for money given it’s very modest cost. (Papers are massively underpriced.). Hopefully you give it another go and enjoy it more!
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Have to say any time I’ve read it I’ve enjiyed it but counting Brolly in that list? Really?
 
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Mickey Gormley

Active Member
McCoyDromintee said:
I find that’s a very harsh summary.

First of all you’re right. Three staff filling 40 pages a week is extremely tough especially when one is on holiday.

However I feel we do an excellent job for variation.

In a standard 40 page edition you’ll generally find nine pages of club - given voices, interviews and team news from Crossmaglen to Corrinshego.

One of the best stable of columnists about in Joe Brolly, Kevin Cassidy, Gerard O’Kane, Cahal Carvill and Shane Elliott.

Also, a hugely-popular training zone offering advice on everything from strength and conditioning, mindsets and, recently following the arrival of Patrick Morrison, goalkeeping.

Then you’ll have an in focus interview getting a deep insight from that week’s guest. Next week for example I have a long interview with Alan Davidson. May seem a strange choice but it’s a cracking read - because of his honesty rather than any good writing I hasten to add.

Also, a club focus looking at a particular club in Ulster or afar.

On top of that you have regular county preview and news (nobody has broken more Armagh exclusives in the last five years than GL).

Then the paper is broken up with your take a break pages, your fantasy football.

I disagree strongly with the filling in with pointless words assessment and I find it hard to believe that any Ulster GAA fans wouldn’t find the product value for money given it’s very modest cost. (Papers are massively underpriced.). Hopefully you give it another go and enjoy it more!
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Even i thought that was harsh. Its got its subscribers the columnist are good joe beolly an cahal. But unfortunately i dont take enough interest in other counties...

Anyway im hearing aidan o rourke coming in too not sure about that. Need a cross man
 
PatMustard

PatMustard

Well-Known Member
McCoyDromintee said:
I find that’s a very harsh summary.

First of all you’re right. Three staff filling 40 pages a week is extremely tough especially when one is on holiday.

However I feel we do an excellent job for variation.

In a standard 40 page edition you’ll generally find nine pages of club - given voices, interviews and team news from Crossmaglen to Corrinshego.

One of the best stable of columnists about in Joe Brolly, Kevin Cassidy, Gerard O’Kane, Cahal Carvill and Shane Elliott.

Also, a hugely-popular training zone offering advice on everything from strength and conditioning, mindsets and, recently following the arrival of Patrick Morrison, goalkeeping.

Then you’ll have an in focus interview getting a deep insight from that week’s guest. Next week for example I have a long interview with Alan Davidson. May seem a strange choice but it’s a cracking read - because of his honesty rather than any good writing I hasten to add.

Also, a club focus looking at a particular club in Ulster or afar.

On top of that you have regular county preview and news (nobody has broken more Armagh exclusives in the last five years than GL).

Then the paper is broken up with your take a break pages, your fantasy football.

I disagree strongly with the filling in with pointless words assessment and I find it hard to believe that any Ulster GAA fans wouldn’t find the product value for money given it’s very modest cost. (Papers are massively underpriced.). Hopefully you give it another go and enjoy it more!
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Aye it’s good value for £1.30. Some days there might be frig all GAA in the IN. At least you’re guaranteed a good read covering all aspects of the game.

I enjoy Kevin Cassidy’s column, and O’Kane. Shane Elliott is good for updating the hurling to us non-experts. Brolly, while he’s a bollix, has some decent columns too.

Would love another Gregory McCartan interview, or even a weekly column from him. He was hilarious!

Would be great if there was weekly prizes/competitions (@William Of Orange shouldnt be the only one with a mug), because it looks like I’m not going to win the FF competitions.
 
JoeH

JoeH

Well-Known Member
McCoyDromintee said:
I find that’s a very harsh summary.

First of all you’re right. Three staff filling 40 pages a week is extremely tough especially when one is on holiday.

However I feel we do an excellent job for variation.

In a standard 40 page edition you’ll generally find nine pages of club - given voices, interviews and team news from Crossmaglen to Corrinshego.

One of the best stable of columnists about in Joe Brolly, Kevin Cassidy, Gerard O’Kane, Cahal Carvill and Shane Elliott.

Also, a hugely-popular training zone offering advice on everything from strength and conditioning, mindsets and, recently following the arrival of Patrick Morrison, goalkeeping.

Then you’ll have an in focus interview getting a deep insight from that week’s guest. Next week for example I have a long interview with Alan Davidson. May seem a strange choice but it’s a cracking read - because of his honesty rather than any good writing I hasten to add.

Also, a club focus looking at a particular club in Ulster or afar.

On top of that you have regular county preview and news (nobody has broken more Armagh exclusives in the last five years than GL).

Then the paper is broken up with your take a break pages, your fantasy football.

I disagree strongly with the filling in with pointless words assessment and I find it hard to believe that any Ulster GAA fans wouldn’t find the product value for money given it’s very modest cost. (Papers are massively underpriced.). Hopefully you give it another go and enjoy it more!
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Its a superb paper one that should be cherished not admonished.
Years ago the GAA in the north meant being pulled over for hours, no wearing of GAA jerseys in certain areas and so on
Now we have a paper that promotes our sport, from club to county, all codes and all the various aspects e.g. training section, player interviews, club highlight etc

Long may it continue
 
Diarmi

Diarmi

Well-Known Member
McCoyDromintee said:
Any interview ideas more than welcome Pat. Gregory was great value. Any ideas for any unique stories feel free to message me folks.
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Don't mean to be so harsh Niall but at least it has started a conversation. Maybe you need a dickhead column where tubes like me spout unfounded nonsense. You would certainly get a reaction. Call it Brolly for the masses. Lol
 
Armagh_paul

Armagh_paul

Well-Known Member
Mickey Gormley said:
Even i thought that was harsh. Its got its subscribers the columnist are good joe beolly an cahal. But unfortunately i dont take enough interest in other counties...

Anyway im hearing aidan o rourke coming in too not sure about that. Need a cross man
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Wasn't O'Rourke involved a few seasons ago?
 
Ard Mhacha 13

Ard Mhacha 13

Well-Known Member
PatMustard said:
Aye it’s good value for £1.30. Some days there might be frig all GAA in the IN. At least you’re guaranteed a good read covering all aspects of the game.

I enjoy Kevin Cassidy’s column, and O’Kane. Shane Elliott is good for updating the hurling to us non-experts. Brolly, while he’s a bollix, has some decent columns too.

Would love another Gregory McCartan interview, or even a weekly column from him. He was hilarious!

Would be great if there was weekly prizes/competitions (@William Of Orange shouldnt be the only one with a mug), because it looks like I’m not going to win the FF competitions.
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Eh hello, check out my avatar :rolleyes::D
 
Optiman

Optiman

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To return to the whole point of this thread, 'Is it time to consider new management,' and to give Kieran full appreciation for his efforts this past season and with respect for his massive contribution as a player, I am still of the opinion that there needs to be a new fresh input into the management (backroom team)! I think we have the makings of a very good team, however, the window of opportunity is very short and we need to make the most of it next season. Important decisions are now crucial! I am not saying that Kieran should go, however, if he is to stay, there needs to be a a massive change in personnel to bring us/the team to a place where they are able to compete with the likes of Kerry,Tyrone,Donegal, Mayo and Dublin next year. I believe that we have the talent in the current squad. Leave personalities/egos to one side. Sink your differences for the good of this Armagh team and for Armagh supporters. Armagh abu
 
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Androim

Active Member
Optiman said:
To return to the whole point of this thread, 'Is it time to consider new management,' and to give Kieran full appreciation for his efforts this past season and with respect for his massive contribution as a player, I am still of the opinion that there needs to be a new fresh input into the management (backroom team)! I think we have the makings of a very good team, however, the window of opportunity is very short and we need to make the most of it next season. Important decisions are now crucial! I am not saying that Kieran should go, however, if he is to stay, there needs to be a a massive change in personnel to bring us/the team to a place where they are able to compete with the likes of Kerry,Tyrone,Donegal, Mayo and Dublin next year. I believe that we have the talent in the current squad. Leave personalities/egos to one side. Sink your differences for the good of this Armagh team and for Armagh supporters. Armagh abu
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Manager must always have complete control over who he chooses to work with. Coaches must all be on the same wavelength and be working together toward the common goal. This doesn't mean that there won't be strong views expressed over different tactics, training, etc, but that once the manager makes a decision then that is it. No leaks, no whingeing, no nothing! On the one road, marching along, singing...
 
Ard Mhacha 13

Ard Mhacha 13

Well-Known Member
Optiman said:
To return to the whole point of this thread, 'Is it time to consider new management,' and to give Kieran full appreciation for his efforts this past season and with respect for his massive contribution as a player, I am still of the opinion that there needs to be a new fresh input into the management (backroom team)! I think we have the makings of a very good team, however, the window of opportunity is very short and we need to make the most of it next season. Important decisions are now crucial! I am not saying that Kieran should go, however, if he is to stay, there needs to be a a massive change in personnel to bring us/the team to a place where they are able to compete with the likes of Kerry,Tyrone,Donegal, Mayo and Dublin next year. I believe that we have the talent in the current squad. Leave personalities/egos to one side. Sink your differences for the good of this Armagh team and for Armagh supporters. Armagh abu
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I feel we already have competed with these teams this Season.
We played Tyrone in the McKenna Cup final & gave them a bit of a scare. Obviously the argument will be this was a weakened team, not their Championship team but we all know how seriously St. Mickey treats this competition & he's always trying to find a couple of new players so I maintain it was a good test for us.

We played Donegal both in the McKenna Cup & the league, we beat them in the McKenna Cup (a brilliant display by our boys) & if the referee hadn't "fallen for" (putting it in the most polite way possible) the play acting, sorry numerous serious head injuries :rolleyes: during the league we could have beaten them again or at the least got a draw. Michael Murphy was the difference for them when he was introduced that night but he's just a special player & can do this against most teams including Tyrone & Kerry as has already been witnessed during the Championship.

As for Mayo, we played them in the Qualifiers & they beat us by a single point after what can only be described as an extremely poor refereeing performance & dubious time keeping by a certain Maurice Deegan.

Back to my point, I believe we are already competing with these teams, for me our next step will hopefully be us developing the ability to beat them on a regular basis. I do think at times our players are too "honest" despite what supporters from other counties think. We don't seem to win the easy frees as regularly as other teams & rarely do we get the 50/50 decisions. Having watched all the matches so far in the Super 8s to date I don't believe our tackling is as bad as implied. The perception that other teams are "superb in executing the tackle" is just that, perception, some of the tackling has been as poor as I've ever seen. However we fail in the fact that we are not as "cute" as other teams in getting decisions to go our way. I am not for 1 minute suggesting that I want to see our players cheating & diving, but they maybe need to develop a way to play to the referee on the day.

Sorry, this post is much longer than originally anticipated.
 
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