National Football League 2023

Armagh_paul

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Spot on and makes a mockery of the provincial system...but end of the day, we should be beating Antrim, Cavan and Down/Donegal. So it's all in our hands.
Should we really? If anything we are on a par with them, the momentum is with them and Cavan have got the better of us a number of times.
 

Kick er in

New Member
Its very fine margins at the top table in Division 1 but we have only won 3 of our last 12 division one league games so relegation shouldn't be a massive shock. Today will be a bitter blow to the players management and supporters. Derry and Galway contested the AIl Ireland semi final last year form division 2 so while it's a blow its not the end of the world either.
 

McCoyDromintee

Active Member
What on earth would they have to do to make you unhappy? As I said earlier it is you and others who show blind loyalty who are a major part of the problem.
You were on here last year speaking of the joy and pride this team brought you after their run to the Galway game.

Now you're saying anyone who hasn't turned full circle after half a season "isn't blessed with intelligence."

Relax a bit.
 

Seamy

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What a thoroughly ridiculous comment. It difficult debating with people who accept mediocrity and are not blessed with intelligence.
Hahaha.

So we've moved on from criticism of management. We're now on to people's intelligence or lack of, as is being suggested.

I think there's a hint of irony in that comment. But I do echo the sentiments.

And fyi, I'm very intelligent. I managed three A Levels. They were D, U and D. Which incidentally spells out your thoughts on my opinion!

I'll see you in Armagh on the 8th all going well. If I can figure out how to read a map that is.
 

SaintSeamy

Active Member
Doesn't mean it isn't either.

Point is making strong judgement calls before the end of a season rarely works out.

We only won two games last year in the Championship - it was hardly a deep run! But point taken.

I still think an ulster final is the bare minimum expectation for us this summer.

If we aren't reaching that, we realistically won't have a run in the all Ireland series.
 

thecritic

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Its very fine margins at the top table in Division 1 but we have only won 3 of our last 12 division one league games so relegation shouldn't be a massive shock. Today will be a bitter blow to the players management and supporters. Derry and Galway contested the AIl Ireland semi final last year form division 2 so while it's a blow its not the end of the world either.
The biggest issue next year will be staying up! It'll be so tight - don't be surprised to see us needing the points on the final day!
So disappointing not to have the big games to look forward to next year and that's us off the tele again now. Div 1 is where it's at but we're just not good enough at the minute.
 

Armagh_paul

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Not a chance in hell we miss out. Never in a million years.

Counties haven't been taking the provincials seriously for a decade but we're not going to have a Wicklow-Wexford Leinster final.

If I was Meath though I would be sweating.

You cannot say that for certain.

Dublin, Kerry, Derry, Tyrone, Monaghan are all guaranteed AI football. If I were manager of any of these counties, I would not be risking it all for when it comes to the AI.
 

McCoyDromintee

Active Member
You cannot say that for certain.

Dublin, Kerry, Derry, Tyrone, Monaghan are all guaranteed AI football. If I were manager of any of these counties, I would not be risking it all for when it comes to the AI.
I can!

Otherwise put your money on it and you'll be a millionaire!

Just for clarity. You'd need five division three or 4 teams in the provincial finals I think.

If only three of Kerry, Cork, Galway, Mayo, Roscommon, Dublin, Meath, Kildare, Armagh, Monaghan, Tyrone, Donegal or Derry make their provincial finals I'll start supporting Tyrone.
 

Diarmi

Well-Known Member
You were on here last year speaking of the joy and pride this team brought you after their run to the Galway game.

Now you're saying anyone who hasn't turned full circle after half a season "isn't blessed with intelligence."

Relax a bit.
Yes because they did bring so much pride and job but this season has been atrocious right from that wet day in Breffni. I also did not accuse everyone of lacking intelligence, just one person. I have yet to hear a coherent defense of the management.
Nice bit of trolling there too Niall or have you just a really good memory...
 

McCoyDromintee

Active Member
Yes because they did bring so much pride and job but this season has been atrocious right from that wet day in Breffni. I also did not accuse everyone of lacking intelligence, just one person. I have yet to hear a coherent defense of the management.
Nice bit of trolling there too Niall or have you just a really good memory...
Really good memory boss.

Still even if only one person, he's posting his passionate argument as much as you are his, which you are both entitled too.

Without a time machine no one kniws how this season is going to pan out.
 

Armagh_paul

Well-Known Member
I can!

Otherwise put your money on it and you'll be a millionaire!

We are up against Cavan another team that needs to go through and if we do go through, we are potentially up against another team that needs the final appearance. Our record in Ulster is abysmal we do not know where this team is heading - based on this league campaign it is looking grim. It could still work out but there is not a lot to be optimistic about at the moment.

I bet you wouldn't have put money on Cavan and Tipperary winning their provincials a few years ago. To some the provincials are dead, it is going to depend entirely on how the likes of Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone etc prepare for the AI now, that is what they have their eyes on. It is an unknown year, a few surprises could be on the horizon.
 

thehighballinlow

Active Member
I think we played well today. Yes we didnt win and we dont get anything for playing well and losing.

But overall i think there is a big problem with armagh football as a whole.

Forget tactics and systems when is the last time we have had a competitive minor or u21/ u20 team.

I think the top brass needs to sit down and put systems in place to develop young talent within the county.

Back to the seniors, it would take a very unfortunate series of events for us not to be in the AI series, but i still think we need to attack an ulster.
Antim should be ok. Cavan will be a tight, hard game over there. If we come thru that down or donegal, be the two team you'd pick to play to get to a final.

Lets all get back to getting behind the players, management, and backroom team. There will be no one hurting as much as them.

Whether McGeeney is right or wrong, man right now is irrelevant come end of the season we can discuss this. Right now, bring on antrim
 

McCoyDromintee

Active Member
I bet you wouldn't have put money on Cavan and Tipperary winning their provincials a few years ago.
That's my point though. Even in that ridiculous year and if the round Robin was in place the team finishing seventh in D1 wouldn't have come close to missing out.

It would have to be

Ulster final
Fermanagh v Cavan/Antrim/Down

Munster final
Limerick v Tipperary

Leinster final
Longford/Offaly v Wicklow/Carlow/Laois/Wexford
 

Armaghabroad22

Active Member
Incredibly disappointing that we will be playing division 2 football next year, when we know we are probably capable of much more than what we have shown this season.

Division 1 football it ruthless, Dublin were all too aware of this 12months ago.
But we have been punished for our overly defensive style of play, low scoring and for not being able to close out games.
Unfortunately, today boiled down to our first half lack of discipline in defence and high rate of unforced errors. In my opinion - today falls on the players and not management, but I have no intention of criticising either on a day that they will be equally as frustrated by the games and opportunities they left behind. And I do not think mid season calls for a change of management are helpful to anyone.

Of the few positives, today was much closer to the style of play we expect from Armagh.
Glad to see our stalwarts, particularly Grugan back up to the speed of the game. I thought Forker was excellent, both defensively and on attack. It goes to show that when our more experienced players (Grugan, Forker, Soupy et al) are on form - the team plays better as a collective. Great save from Rafferty today with some well placed kickouts and supportive runs. Whilst I hate it, glad to see Armagh utilising the mark today.
Some brilliant fielding in the middle of the park by Mackin, Grimley and Murnin. Hoping Murnins injury isn't too serious as he has been one of our few consistent players this year.

We have a strong squad (albeit riddled with injuries) and 2 weeks before our game with Antrim, before getting the opportunity to shake the monkey off our back - Cavan!
I fully believe we can stake a claim at this year's provincials. All we can do as supporters is mute the rumour mill, keep the heads and raise the support.
 
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Lemallon

Active Member
A good performance to bring into championship.

Four defeats by a combined tally of seven points I think so no need to panic. Would be nice to get into the habit of winning tight games though.

The usual similar OTT crying last week that we saw after Ballybofey last year.

Think we can have a big say in the championship yet.
Only with our first 15 I’d say Niall. If rian and Murnin are out for a while we are done. Plus can we please start defending before our 30 yard line. Few Tyrone points I honestly don’t think an armagh player even touched a Tyrone jersey.
 
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