PatMustard
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St Galls won Ulster in 09 though
Ulster Club championship
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Did Ogs win Ulster????
ragingbull
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No lol
Pete Mcgrath
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Kilcoo have the most down titles now, i fully think they would beat yous or it would be tight atleast but yous would 100% not have a bit to spare and that is being very harsh on them. Dont think your all ireland teams would have been able to cope with todays football, fitness and skill levels are through the roof.
Just my opinion though
If our All Ireland winning teams, particularly the 1997-2000 teams, had the training of current teams I am confident that the skill levels of Oisin, Jim Mc, the McEntees, Francie, Donal Murtagh and Cathal Short to name but a few would more than cope. If we had the conditioning training that current players have there would be no contest. We were probably the most physically dominant club team around without conditioning. We had 11-12 players 6 ft plus and were all pretty mobile(excluding myself!). If we had a S&C coaching like there is now we would have been on another level.
I’ll tell you when Kilcoo can be compared to the likes of ourselves or Burren or any club In Ulster, when Andy Merrigan is on its way to the wilds up there. I will support them to win it but they are not in the conversation yet, no more than Slaughtniel were. Without the big one you can’t be considered.
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There are 3 other challengers in Down: Burren are one of the best clubs in Ulster yet for all their talent more often than not dump the trunks when they see the black and white. Likewise Carryduff who have yet to make that breakthrough (although watch this space) seem to lack the backbone to finish them off when they have an absolute embarrassment of talent to pick from. Then there’s Clonduff - again consistently one of the best clubs in Down for 20+ years but never able to build on their talent. Not saying the Down championship is a walk in the park but it’s no different to what Crossmaglen have had to face in Armagh since 96 and again since 2004, the difference of course being those teams immediately made hay in both Ulster & AI competitions
Armaghball
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Warrenpoint again a good side won an Ulster intermediate a few years ago and pushed Kilcoo very close in Down within the last few years as far as I remember. Mayobridge another club with massive numbers and always a good side.
This Kilcoo side are a superb team but obviously are yet to win the big one before they can be compare to the likes of Cross. They’ll probably never get a better chance than this though.
Armaghball
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Hard to argue with that- 2 different era’s but that Cross team would have had 3 times the footballing ability of Kilcoo and I’m sure all those lads would have been even better if they did the training Kilcoo do.
Neither of them two are serious contenders in Down. I think Kilcoo are brilliant - they’ve strength all over the pitch and on the bench as well. Even if they win the AI they’ll need to back that up in the following year or two to be spoken in the same breath as Cross
ragingbull
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Hurson from themuns should not being referring the All Ireland Club Final on Saturday
I don't think the referee should be from either province of clubs. He is not worst though
Altho i agree with @Throwball that an ulster ref shouldnt be doing the final, will u ever take a break bull, the way u and some other people on this go on, complaining about everyone and everything to do with tyrone is frankly childish and cringey beyond belief. hurson is a decent ref the fact hes from tyrone shouldnt effect that
and i dislike the tyrone when it comes to football as much as the rest
and i dislike the tyrone when it comes to football as much as the rest
Big Jim
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To be fair and I've said this before, Sean is a really decent referee. Any time he has been in the middle with us, he hasn't done us any harm. Some strange decisions?? Yes of course, but we don't always see what they see in real time and on reflection it's not far away. Does he do us any favours? No, but then that's not what we want. We want the guy in the middle to apply the rules evenly and let the game go. He does - in my opinion. I'll add to that that before the game on Sunday I'd also said many times that David Gough is not a bad referee. I stand by that even though he did seem to be inconsistent. He's human and will make mistakes. Stick yer hand up and join the ranks if you are that much better (no not you personally bull, just to readers in general who constantly moan about refs). Of course anyone can have an opinion. Of course it's right that you can say what you like without getting personal, but as @Bro alluded to, it gets tiresome when every appointment is met with negativity.
Best of luck to Kilcoo on Saturday. I really hope you can hold your heads high on the way home and know you gave it your best shot and only got beaten by 12 points!
ragingbull
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PatMustard
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Big Jim
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Of course I'm backing them to play!!!
Pete Mcgrath
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There in the conversation now!!
Armaghball
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They’ll need to win another few before they can be compared to those Cross teams!
Yes they are, by the skin of their teeth! Over the game Kilmacud ‘deserved’ to win but Kilcoo had the game intelligence and winning mentality that Crokes didn’t and were ruthless when the opportunity came.
Crokes keeper badly at fault for last kick and I can’t understand why Shealin Johnston wasn’t dragged to the ground. If ever a black card was needed that was the time. There were 2 Crokes players who could have done it but didn’t.
They are deserved champions and an AI looks nice on the mantelpiece. They have a real winning culture and should dominate Down for another few years. The ability to repeat the success at provincial and AI level will mark out their ‘greatness’. Good teams win 1, great teams win multiples.