Ulster Club championship

Have Armagh a chance in Ulster at any grade this Year?

  • Senior

    Votes: 12 50.0%
  • Intermediate

    Votes: 10 41.7%
  • Junior

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • None

    Votes: 7 29.2%

  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .

GAAGael

Member
Ballybay poor today. Consequence of 1 week turnaround or overhyped after meeting a Cross team not firing on all cylinders?
 

armaghlad

Active Member
Ballybay poor today. Consequence of 1 week turnaround or overhyped after meeting a Cross team not firing on all cylinders?
A bit of both I’d say.

Worth noting that Cross have also been overhyped. They’d one outstanding performance against Maghery and then were up against mediocre sides in Dromintee & Granemore. Silverbridge probably kicking themselves.
 

Armaghball

Well-Known Member
A bit of both I’d say.

Worth noting that Cross have also been overhyped. They’d one outstanding performance against Maghery and then were up against mediocre sides in Dromintee & Granemore. Silverbridge probably kicking themselves.
Bit of both is right. Kilcoo a serious outfit but Ballybay probably would have given a better account of themselves with the extra week off
 

GAAGael

Member
A bit of both I’d say.

Worth noting that Cross have also been overhyped. They’d one outstanding performance against Maghery and then were up against mediocre sides in Dromintee & Granemore. Silverbridge probably kicking themselves.
They're still the best team in Armagh. Kilcoo lucky to get out of Down also - took extra time in two games to make it. I think when you get to Ulster club - if one team is not at 100% performance, you're in trouble.
 

armaghlad

Active Member
They're still the best team in Armagh. Kilcoo lucky to get out of Down also - took extra time in two games to make it. I think when you get to Ulster club - if one team is not at 100% performance, you're in trouble.
Not by far though. I agree with you, Ulster Club is an unforgivable environment.
 

armaghlad

Active Member
Interesting results in the Ulster Intermediate over the weekend. Corduff were easy winners over Saval and Glenullin were absolutely humiliated by Galbally.
 

Rufus T Firefly

Well-Known Member
Bit of both is right. Kilcoo a serious outfit but Ballybay probably would have given a better account of themselves with the extra week off

The Monaghan Senior Final was on 16 October, which meant that Ballybay had almost a three week gap to the Rangers game followed by a gap of eight days to the Kilcoo game. Can the extra week for Kilcoo have really been a factor of any consequence?

Rangers were comfortably the best in Armagh this year, and got a serious going over from a team who themselves in turn were hammered by the Down Champions. It gives me no pleasure to say it but for me, this is just one more symptom of how poor football is in our county. The recent record (last five / six years) of our Club Champions at all grades in Ulster, alongside our Underage teams, is a damning indictment of where we are.
 

Armaghball

Well-Known Member
The Monaghan Senior Final was on 16 October, which meant that Ballybay had almost a three week gap to the Rangers game followed by a gap of eight days to the Kilcoo game. Can the extra week for Kilcoo have really been a factor of any consequence?

Rangers were comfortably the best in Armagh this year, and got a serious going over from a team who themselves in turn were hammered by the Down Champions. It gives me no pleasure to say it but for me, this is just one more symptom of how poor football is in our county. The recent record (last five / six years) of our Club Champions at all grades in Ulster, alongside our Underage teams, is a damning indictment of where we are.
I do think the short turn around to the Kilcoo game was detrimental to Ballybay, a good chunk of their main men are in their 30’s and apparently one or two were carrying knocks from the Cross game. Don’t want to overstate that as a factor as Kilcoo are comfortably better than either Ballybay or Cross.

I don’t think Cross gave a good account of themselves against Ballybay and certainly aren’t as poor as the results are suggesting and will only improve in Ulster over the next few years, but I agree that Armagh football (outside of the senior team) is in a poor poor place at the minute.
 

ShiftYa

Active Member
I do think the short turn around to the Kilcoo game was detrimental to Ballybay, a good chunk of their main men are in their 30’s and apparently one or two were carrying knocks from the Cross game. Don’t want to overstate that as a factor as Kilcoo are comfortably better than either Ballybay or Cross.

I don’t think Cross gave a good account of themselves against Ballybay and certainly aren’t as poor as the results are suggesting and will only improve in Ulster over the next few years, but I agree that Armagh football (outside of the senior team) is in a poor poor place at the minute.
No guarantee Cross is going to get better, AK, Morgan, Hughes, Clarke don’t have too many years left between them and if they’re not getting pushed internally within Armagh by other clubs it’s hard to raise standards. As @bcb1 eludes to regularly they were being pushed by the Mullabawns, Dromintees when they were at their height who had they of got out of Armagh may have went onto win Ulster.
If you were to disregard the Maghery performance and only take the other 4 games into account how would your evaluation of Cross change? (Not a go at cross, they still are the top team in Armagh after all)
 

armaghlad

Active Member
Cross are still the benchmark in Armagh but only just. There’s a few teams in this county that promise so much at senior level but deliver so little.
 
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