Underage football

Armaghball

Well-Known Member
What teams are fielding 2 teams at different levels? Clann Eireann? Fair play to them when a lot of teams are having to amalgamate.
 

Diarmi

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There is a few clubs with a second team in a different division at there age groups.
Is there any rules to stop them from playing there higher division players on the second team?
This has happened with some teams on the end of some tanking's because of it.
I have my suspicions that this has happened recently. Very poor form and detrimental to both the opposing team and the offending team who will lose players as a result.
 
Clubs with second teams had to name players that would be unable to play for the B team (I think it was 18 players)

The biggest problem is teams going in the wrong division. There is a team in U16 division 3 that have played 3 games and have a score difference of +108 points.
 

Armaghball

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Clubs with second teams had to name players that would be unable to play for the B team (I think it was 18 players)

The biggest problem is teams going in the wrong division. There is a team in U16 division 3 that have played 3 games and have a score difference of +108 points.
thats doing those lads and the players at the weaker team no good.
 

Bringyourboots

Active Member
If it's being done it's by adults who should know better. Then we wonder about poor performance at County underage level. Very difficult to police though until afterwards. The genuine weaker teams will end up opting out games rather than suffer a hammering and we lose players and club members. No winners in those circumstances.
 

JoeH

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They are at the same at U14. A 61 point win tonight and a +80 something score difference after 2 games.

The minor board have questions to answer allowing amalgamations to be placed in division 3 to hand out results like these. Disgraceful.
Maybe it's the coaches from these clubs who know what they're doing as they know the players they have.
 

Armaghball

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Maybe it's the coaches from these clubs who know what they're doing as they know the players they have.
Maybe they genuinely are playing their weaker 15 and they are lucky enough to have a proper second team that is that much ahead, others that know the teams and lads may have a better idea.

Some very weak teams in the lower end, clubs that maybe could do with amalgamating and who have to call up players from younger age groups just to field. Fair play to them for fielding on their own and they don’t deserve that shite.

Something wants done either way.
 

Armaghball

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They are at the same at U14. A 61 point win tonight and a +80 something score difference after 2 games.

The minor board have questions to answer allowing amalgamations to be placed in division 3 to hand out results like these. Disgraceful.
Been going on for years that. Teams that would probably compete in a higher division but probably not win it, dropping down to pick up a handy trophy. Pointless.
 

Armaghball

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Just had a nosey there. Who are Patrick Rankin? I thought they were Shane O’Neills along with Thomas Davis but according to results it was Shanes they played. 17-10 scored. Surely management would have the gumption to tell players to take points at some point.

Looking at results across the board, would smaller nets be beneficial at the lower levels?
U14’s obviously will encompass a lot of lads a different stages of physical development, a lot of them probably struggle reaching the crossbar.
 

Minerals

New Member
Just had a nosey there. Who are Patrick Rankin? I thought they were Shane O’Neills along with Thomas Davis but according to results it was Shanes they played. 17-10 scored. Surely management would have the gumption to tell players to take points at some point.

Looking at results across the board, would smaller nets be beneficial at the lower levels?
U14’s obviously will encompass a lot of lads a different stages of physical development, a lot of them probably struggle reaching the crossbar.
I noticed that myself, the score lines have as many goals as points

When the leagues split again now again to A & B the, teams that are clearly two strong should move a division up.
id say in the division above there may be teams that haven't won a game that could move down?
 

Throwball

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I noticed that myself, the score lines have as many goals as points

When the leagues split again now again to A & B the, teams that are clearly two strong should move a division up.
id say in the division above there may be teams that haven't won a game that could move down?
Not sure leagues split this year at all levels. Some championship games are on a mini league basis.
 

Kem

Active Member
Just had a nosey there. Who are Patrick Rankin? I thought they were Shane O’Neills along with Thomas Davis but according to results it was Shanes they played. 17-10 scored. Surely management would have the gumption to tell players to take points at some point.

Looking at results across the board, would smaller nets be beneficial at the lower levels?
U14’s obviously will encompass a lot of lads a different stages of physical development, a lot of them probably struggle reaching the crossbar.
Good point about the u 14 rule of playing the full sized field and goals. A disgrace in my opinion. Weaker teams will be fielding 12 year olds to make up the numbers. The GAA talk a lot about player welfare but allow this to happen.
 

Onlooker

Active Member
Good point about the u 14 rule of playing the full sized field and goals. A disgrace in my opinion. Weaker teams will be fielding 12 year olds to make up the numbers. The GAA talk a lot about player welfare but allow this to happen.
Snowflakes.. U14 football was full sized pitches when most people here were that age and did them no harm. Kickouts were from the 6 yard box off the ground too. There will be calls to chop and change age groups every year, leave it be. As for weaker teams, division 3 u14 can play into small sized goals.
 

bcb1

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Snowflakes.. U14 football was full sized pitches when most people here were that age and did them no harm. Kickouts were from the 6 yard box off the ground too. There will be calls to chop and change age groups every year, leave it be. As for weaker teams, division 3 u14 can play into small sized goals.
I have so many strong memories of u14 football and you’re right, full size pitches, kickouts off the ground from the small square and squads of 30 players running after Tim Gregory torturing him for 5 minutes!
 
I have so many strong memories of u14 football and you’re right, full size pitches, kickouts off the ground from the small square and squads of 30 players running after Tim Gregory torturing him for 5 minutes!
Any minutes from the bould Tim are not given away easily and are always hard earned.
 

Mootz

Member
Just had a nosey there. Who are Patrick Rankin? I thought they were Shane O’Neills along with Thomas Davis but according to results it was Shanes they played. 17-10 scored. Surely management would have the gumption to tell players to take points at some point.

Looking at results across the board, would smaller nets be beneficial at the lower levels?
U14’s obviously will encompass a lot of lads a different stages of physical development, a lot of them probably struggle reaching the crossbar.
All Amalgamation teams should be made to play in the top division. 17-10 Is a ridiculous scoreline
 

Onlooker

Active Member
All Amalgamation teams should be made to play in the top division. 17-10 Is a ridiculous scoreline
this comment makes no sense whatsoever. Some amalgamations have bare numbers when they join together, I have seen it first hand. The county board will do their best based on results down the years with the same group of players to grade them but it is ultimately down to the clubs themselves. If they want to play at a lower standard and hockey teams they are only fooling themselves who don't care about getting the best players through to play senior. Underage isn't about winning, it is about providing a sustainable future for your club and that is your senior team who are your shop window.
 

ragingbull

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Just had a nosey there. Who are Patrick Rankin? I thought they were Shane O’Neills along with Thomas Davis but according to results it was Shanes they played. 17-10 scored. Surely management would have the gumption to tell players to take points at some point.

Looking at results across the board, would smaller nets be beneficial at the lower levels?
U14’s obviously will encompass a lot of lads a different stages of physical development, a lot of them probably struggle reaching the crossbar.
Shane O'Neills,Corrinshego & O'Hanlons but maybe Shane O'Neills are on their own the year at that age group
 
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