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Would be happy to see that team running outHughes
Morgan
McKay
Hughes
Shields
Donaghy
Forker
O'Neill
Jo Burns
Grugan
Grimley
Campbell
Clarke
O'Neill
Nugent or Rafferty
Would be happy to see that team running outHughes
Morgan
McKay
Hughes
Shields
Donaghy
Forker
O'Neill
Jo Burns
Grugan
Grimley
Campbell
Clarke
O'Neill
Nugent or Rafferty
Bullshit I blame totally the management. A why is he not starting our best team pure argorant. B HE should have address the gaping hole between or chb an midfield. I think he's trying to be smart an like pep. An try an revelutionise gaelic what was he actually at. All 3 goals came from lapse of concentration.That game was a microcosm of where Armagh are at currently. All of the inconsistencies on show in one 70 minute display. Lethal on the front foot, but comical when put under pressure. We can expect the same for the rest of the season, which will no doubt be equal parts exciting and frustrating. But it's difficult to see much significant progress emerging out of such volatility.
The defensive frailties are obviously at the heart of the problem. They have been there from long before this season began and probably aren't going anywhere before it ends. These frailties are the result of both tactical and personnel problems, which makes them doubly difficult to fix in the short term.
It's fair to level some criticism at the management for their tactical organisation - six years into things and they are still sending out teams lacking very basic defensive structures. Why is the middle of the defence always so open to exploitation? It's been that way for years, and any opposition with a bit of wit about them should know that there's easy pickings to be had by targeting this area. Can nothing different be tried? Or is it felt that the players are not capable of playing to a different system?
Which brings us onto the second problem, one for which the management can't be blamed. The county hasn't produced a single top quality defender in more than a decade. Why is this? It is the nature of our club game? Is it the quality of coaching in development squads & schools? Is it just the way things go, a nature cycle, and we'll have six class defenders in ten year's time but no forwards? This is something that must be discussed and tackled if we really intend to take the leap back to football's top table.
The players need to take more responsibility too. It's been a theme of this Armagh side over the last number of years to let short opposition purple patches be the losing of games. The best teams know how to put the breaks on, by fair means or foul, when the opposition runs up a head of steam. You kill time by any means, you lie down, you start handbag sessions, you resort to boring, safe lateral passing - anything that breaks the opposition momentum. The Dubs do it in a really transparent way with a raised fist signal - this is the cue for about two minutes of zero risk short, lateral passing between themselves until they have regrouped. We need some of our more experienced lads to be smarter and more influential when the opposition gets a run on us. We shouldn't be throwing away games because of a panicky ten minute spell.
On a more positive note, promotion is still just about in our own hands. Massive game in Enniskillen next weekend - Fermanagh are fighting for their summer.
Mad thing is, Rory went down to block the ball and Westmeath 13 kicks the back of his thigh quite high up. If that had have been out the field it would have been allowed as a great tackle and we'd have been applauding it. To balance the imbecile and some spectacular bad decisions, there were a few he gave us and again I just scratched my head. Presumably it's now a non contact sport for northern teams!I was behind the goals and it was no penalty,he later told sheridan the he was being very consistent with all his decisions
Absolutely. The manager got so fixated with being arrogant and revolutionary that he dropped his concentration and let three goals in, one which was a penalty that should not have been awarded but at least he scored two for us or does he not get credit, just criticismBullshit I blame totally the management. A why is he not starting our best team pure argorant. B HE should have address the gaping hole between or chb an midfield. I think he's trying to be smart an like pep. An try an revelutionise gaelic what was he actually at. All 3 goals came from lapse of concentration.
Yep down at the left side of the stand as you looked out! Crowd went ballistic.Someone attending the match has just told me that their number 9 punched Oisin O'Neill in the stomach, did anyone else see this incident?
Correct and right,yes we had a few in the 2nd half were we pulled the shirt of the westmeath player,but every time we touched them it was a free,it would interesting to see the free kick stats for the 2nd half.Mad thing is, Rory went down to block the ball and Westmeath 13 kicks the back of his thigh quite high up. If that had have been out the field it would have been allowed as a great tackle and we'd have been applauding it. To balance the imbecile and some spectacular bad decisions, there were a few he gave us and again I just scratched my head. Presumably it's now a non contact sport for northern teams!
Someone else mentioned "we now are just poor at tackiling" baffling because of our manager. Sorry to say this, but how can we be wrong every single tackle by every single player and yet it seems fine for the opposition. It's every player in every position that gets blown up for seemingly nothing. Maybe it is the blinkers but jesus if we're that bad how the hell are we even in this division and some even fancying our chances of promotion?
We win a ball that is thrown and ref gives it as a wrenched ball even though there is zero contact. You could list endless incidents like that. I will not accept that every tackle we make is wrong. Some suggest it is. Our issue in defence is massive, but it's not simply the tackle I'm afraid.
We didn't deserve that draw today. There. I said what you all think, but I'll still take it.
Yeah but oneill never really made an issue of it,he crouched over and then got back upSomeone attending the match has just told me that their number 9 punched Oisin O'Neill in the stomach, did anyone else see this incident?
Donaghy if fit. McCabe is a better option alsoAlternatives?
Hughes
Morgan
McKay
Hughes
Shields
Donaghy
Forker
O'Neill
Jo Burns
Grugan
Grimley
Campbell
Clarke
O'Neill
Nugent or Rafferty
Blame the management all you want pal but at least be right in what you’re sayingBullshit I blame totally the management. A why is he not starting our best team pure argorant. B HE should have address the gaping hole between or chb an midfield. I think he's trying to be smart an like pep. An try an revelutionise gaelic what was he actually at. All 3 goals came from lapse of concentration.
Hughes
Morgan/McKay
Forker
Hughes
Shields
Donaghy
P Burns
O'Neill
J Óg Burns
Grugan
Soupy
Grimley
Clarke
O'Neill
Nugent
That'd be my 15. Forker showed his worth at FB against Kildare. Himself and Donaghy in the middle would tighten things up. Can't justify not having Paddy Burns in there. Left isotalted today with a weak spine and having to pick up more than one man. Would like to see him tried at WHB for pace and attacking.
Morgan picks up too many cards for my liking and can be a bit liable in there in terms of discipline. Similarly, McKay can be a small bit immobile at times but is robust and can provide a good physical presence.
I think. J Óg Burns is probably best suited to MF. His strong attacking running game from deep is a great asset.
Soupy as a link man in the half forward line is another strong option. Can shoot from deep and again, strong attacking runner.
Jamie back in the FF line speaks for itself.
Leaves a good bench with Duffy, Rafferty, Morgan/McKay, McElroy, Sheridan, Hall and a few others... That's where I'd be looking anyway.
Still in the promotion hunt anyway so destiny firmly in our hands. Good to see the 'new members' spouting the McGeeney out language again too