What makes you think their inferior to us?The overriding emotion this morning is utter dejection and disappointment. To put in a performance like that against an inferior side is really reflective of our season overall
2 great players for us but both totally out sorts yesterday unfortunately.I'm not on the county panel, this is a forum where we discuss the football, IMO Grugan is really important for us in organising our forwards and the play goes through him alot but again IMO he is not good at tackling and his tracking back looks like he isn't trying sometimes, he is a top player and I'd personally prefer him in the full forward line and drift out to playmake, I dunno if it's tactics but I noticed alot of the time Grugan and Campbell where very deep collecting the ball, even behind our full back line, and on their kick outs crealy was just ahead of full back line. What I will say is I don't like their style of play but fair play to Monaghan they always get the max out of their pick and they are a county that has a population that wouldn't even fill croke park
They are far from inferior to us. I was quietly confident going in to the game yesterday. When I seen McIlroy was starting ahead of turbo that started to disappear. Not a criticism of him by the way.What makes you think their inferior to us?
Over the past 5 years they have won more ulsters, beat more div 1teams in championships, survived in div 1. What have we done?
Think there is a kick of a ball between both team but they are far from inferior to us.
I should have rephrased that - I think they have inferior players to us, bar one or two. But yes as a team, they maximise what they've got. We don't.What makes you think their inferior to us?
Over the past 5 years they have won more ulsters, beat more div 1teams in championships, survived in div 1. What have we done?
Think there is a kick of a ball between both team but they are far from inferior to us.
Yes agree. And that's no criticism of ethan...he's been mostly good this year and done everything that's been asked of him. But having a midfielder in nets and for 3 important pentaly shoot outs isn't great. He doesn't seem to be coming out anymore as they're mostly going for kickouts, which the opposition turn over a lot (not ethan's fault), but wonder why he isn't roaming the way he was last year. Who are our sub keepers, is there anyone in the pipeline?While we can be counted as unlucky to have lost 3 - no big surprise really considering we dont have an actual keeper - we never should have been in any penalty shoot out
Haven't seen the video, I was on the hill.Also the behaviour on the hill was disgraceful and an absolute embarrassment to our jersey. I hope those involved are identified from the video footage and handed appropriate bans.
It casts our fans in a very negative light which it's entirely unfair for the 99% of dedicated and decent Armagh supporters. And more importantly someone could have got seriously injured.
I’m guessing grigan murnin soupy around 31/32 due to that minor 2009 win. I think forker could be a year or two younger than themYes agree. And that's no criticism of ethan...he's been mostly good this year and done everything that's been asked of him. But having a midfielder in nets and for 3 important pentaly shoot outs isn't great. He doesn't seem to be coming out anymore as they're mostly going for kickouts, which the opposition turn over a lot (not ethan's fault), but wonder why he isn't roaming the way he was last year. Who are our sub keepers, is there anyone in the pipeline?
Whats the age profile of forker grugan murnin soupy...32/33? Do these lads have another year in their legs?
Haven't seen the video, I was on the hill.
Had to move a couple times to get away from aggressive monaghan lads.
Not saying the armagh fans weren't up to no good but all I saw was drunk monaghan louts.
I was thinking the same last nightIt never gets any easier. Each Armagh Championship exit seems to have a special twist of the knife, and last night was no exception.
I've often said that Geezer has to be one of the unluckiest managers about. At a guess, I'd venture there have been no more than 5/6 Senior Championship penalty shoot outs. We have now been in three and lost each one.
That said, my sense is that there was more than bad luck at play, as I felt we did not take the opportunity to impose ourselves on what I consider a marginally inferior team. That was never more evident than during the ten minutes of the black card, when we allowed Monaghan to run down the clock. I felt more urgency on our part at that time, had the potential to open up a telling 2/3 point lead.
We also spurned some great opportunities for goals and indeed points which all added to my belied that Armagh continue to lack a ruthless streak.
Another hugely eventful year ends in bitter disappointment again, with a definite feeling of a wonderful opportunity spurned.
A sense now that there will be decisions to be made by a lot of influential people which will have significant impacts for us moving forward, so appropriate to thank everyone involved for their commitment this year. Still some great memories despite the disappointments.
I wouldn't swap my County for any other.
Roll on 2024.
Awful stuff. The drunkeness was on a scale I don't recall from when I was in my 20s at matches and that's only afew years ago. Also have no time for flares, they're highly dangerous. Not sure what gaa/croke Park can do about it other than more vigorous checks on booze and flares going inIt's pretty damning of both sets of supporters. Kicks, punches and people falling to the ground. In a stand of metal railings and concrete.
We scored 8/10. I’d say we practiced themYou'd think after 2 major penalty shootouts in the last year we'd have practiced taking penalties.
It's not rocket science.
Re: yesterdays scenes on the hill- coke + drink are a bad mix
This result is the worst since Fermanagh 2004I'm not sure if I have anything constructive to say that hasn't already been said.
But whilst we know there are more bad days than good days where sport is concerned, I was generally of the opinion that the bad days were outweighed but the good, but after yesterday I'm not sure that is the case.
That disappointment is up there with the 2003 all ireland final, I am devastated.
And i can't begin to imagine how our players and management must be feeling today.
Fair fucks to Monaghan. Cory is squeezing every ounce out of what I believe is a very ordinary but well drillled team.