Intermediate Championship 2019

JoeH

JoeH

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Bluenose said:
Are you on the ccc then or why are you being shown clips of Ethan being sent off for striking
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Its.the CCC that deals with games - setting them, any ref reports, any incidents etc their remit is very well defined and I think they run our games fantastically well. When it comes to discipline they can only deal in facts and guidelines as set out in the official guide.
 
winsamsoon

winsamsoon

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JoeH said:
Its.the CCC that deals with games - setting them, any ref reports, any incidents etc their remit is very well defined and I think they run our games fantastically well. When it comes to discipline they can only deal in facts and guidelines as set out in the official guide.
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All well and good JoeH, I am not sure in this case what was over turned, as no one ever sees the detail bar the team that is appealing. If Ethan played then they obviously over turned his red. The other two were yellows and a black. So if they have rescinded these then surely there must be a sanction on the ref. If they have over turned and rescinded every decision he has made then they cannot deem him competent.

The difficulty lies in the short turnover time between games and the fact that other teams (which it affects) know non of the details of the hearings , they only learn the outcome when these guys line out to play against them. I was present at the game and the other two reds were stone wall. I never saw Ethan's one but the ref seemed pretty certain that he lifted his hand. The CCC have a difficult role, but everyone cannot be innocent, either they find the refs findings as true and sanction the player or they side with the player and sanction the refs. It also kind of undermines the ref as his every move is scrutinised.
 
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gael_force_orchard

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winsamsoon said:
All well and good JoeH, I am not sure in this case what was over turned, as no one ever sees the detail bar the team that is appealing. If Ethan played then they obviously over turned his red. The other two were yellows and a black. So if they have rescinded these then surely there must be a sanction on the ref. If they have over turned and rescinded every decision he has made then they cannot deem him competent.

The difficulty lies in the short turnover time between games and the fact that other teams (which it affects) know non of the details of the hearings , they only learn the outcome when these guys line out to play against them. I was present at the game and the other two reds were stone wall. I never saw Ethan's one but the ref seemed pretty certain that he lifted his hand. The CCC have a difficult role, but everyone cannot be innocent, either they find the refs findings as true and sanction the player or they side with the player and sanction the refs. It also kind of undermines the ref as his every move is scrutinised.
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Do you want to tell me how McKenna's was a stone wall red?
 
winsamsoon

winsamsoon

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Yes very simply, His first one was a yellow card and he was cautioned. His second was a body check which was a clear black. This equals a red card according to the rules. If these incidents weren't a red, He then came back onto the field of play, squared up head to head to a player and started a melee. So really can't see a defence for that.
 
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John Hogg

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winsamsoon said:
Yes very simply, His first one was a yellow card and he was cautioned. His second was a body check which was a clear black. This equals a red card according to the rules. If these incidents weren't a red, He then came back onto the field of play, squared up head to head to a player and started a melee. So really can't see a defence for that.
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There are two McKennas, maybe they got one each? ;)
 
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Joe

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winsamsoon said:
Yes very simply, His first one was a yellow card and he was cautioned. His second was a body check which was a clear black. This equals a red card according to the rules. If these incidents weren't a red, He then came back onto the field of play, squared up head to head to a player and started a melee. So really can't see a defence for that.
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From what I've heard it was the clanns who caused most the problems on the day and the ref failed to deal with them which caused the melee. Typical referees doing clanns a favour to help them out.
 
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gael_force_orchard

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The referee was a joke and that's the net result. Anyway enough talked about it, it has done a disservice to the other 2 teams in the group Shane O Neill's and Eire Og as they deserve to be part of the debate. Come the end of the last round of games its very likely that 3 teams will be on 2 points or 3 teams will be on 4 points. Tight group.
 
ragingbull

ragingbull

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winsamsoon said:
Yes very simply, His first one was a yellow card and he was cautioned. His second was a body check which was a clear black. This equals a red card according to the rules. If these incidents weren't a red, He then came back onto the field of play, squared up head to head to a player and started a melee. So really can't see a defence for that.
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You just can't get your head around the Grange players got off lol:p:D
 
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