Senior championship 2022 & 2023

GAAGael

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I thought he done well.
Moved the ball up a lot but he does that, and the players should know that by now
You must be the only one! He's shocking. If he takes a grudge, you're goosed. One set of rules for one team, and another for the other. Blatant fouls not given in the closing of the game. Tries his best to keep the other team in it. Even CB men there raised their eyebrows at some decisions.

On another note, are Armagh referees assessed during the year? The standard of refereeing in Armagh is poor in comparison to other counties.
 

ragingbull

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Semi finals games played weekend 6th October Athletic Grounds
Clann Eireann vs Clan Na Gael
Madden vs Crossmaglen
 

niall1980

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You must be the only one! He's shocking. If he takes a grudge, you're goosed. One set of rules for one team, and another for the other. Blatant fouls not given in the closing of the game. Tries his best to keep the other team in it. Even CB men there raised their eyebrows at some decisions.

On another note, are Armagh referees assessed during the year? The standard of refereeing in Armagh is poor in comparison to other counties.
I fully agree with your last sentence. The standard is shocking
 

winsamsoon

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Onto the semi's we go then....

Madden simply just overpowered the Nab who looked toothless and showed their aging panel, went out with a whimper

Never seen the Cross match but from all accounts they were lucky enough in the end, the Jekyl and Hyde Harps almost done it again.

Clans/Killeavey- In a game undoubtedly affected by the weather and the early red card, I thought the clans showed great tenacity and never let up, Killeavey rallied a little after the break but this was when the game was done. Officiating again has to be questioned, great players being systematically fouled time and time again. Campbell actually received two punches to the back of the head whilst trying to retrieve the ball for a sideline kick. This was two yards from the linesman and 20 from the ref. The outcome being a yellow for Campbell and their number 3 (who threw both punches) and a red for one of the Clans management team. The blues played very well and will be going into the semi with a ball of confidence.

Silverbridge/Clann Eireann- Again affected by the weather but not a massively convincing performance by CE, done what they had to get over the line and really that is all that matters. For a brief moment at the beginning of the second half when Silverbridge got their goal it looked like they were going to muster a big effort. Any hope was killed with CE fortunate second goal. Again inconsistencies with the reffing, there must have been 10 frees awarded for off the ground in the first 15 minutes, several of these as a result of the ref allowing fouls to happen and then six or seven men grappling for ball on the ground, just blow the fouls for god sake. The ref seemed to let a lot of contact go and then gave a few bizarre ones, most notably a free to Silverbridge after a fantastic block, the lad just crawled along the ground obstructing the ball and somehow got a free out.

Set up now for two cracker ties, Madden will definetly give Cross all they want, if they keep their emphasis on the football they are in with a cracking chance. They had Cross beaten a few years back then got dragged into a physical battle, lost discipline and the game.

Clan Na Gael (The only Clans) and Clann Eireann has the making of a great game also, there will be a great buzz around the town now for the next couple of weeks, this has the makings of a real old time championship game and will be decided by fine margins. Hopefully the Blues come out on top.

I see a local commentator on the club scene is already organising a panel of guests plus an audience to discuss the games, should be some colourful exchanges:)
 

Wee man

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You must be the only one! He's shocking. If he takes a grudge, you're goosed. One set of rules for one team, and another for the other. Blatant fouls not given in the closing of the game. Tries his best to keep the other team in it. Even CB men there raised their eyebrows at some decisions.

On another note, are Armagh referees assessed during the year? The standard of refereeing in Armagh is poor in comparison to other counties.
have you ever tried it yourself ??
was in the AG last night.
the verbal abuse directed at one of the linesman from a section of the clan na gael supporters was nothing short of disgraceful.
im talking about really aggressive personal insults on a first name basis
one individual in particular had to asked to sit down by the stewarts. IMO he should have been asked to leave
give respect - get respect my hole

and im not singling out clan na gael. at the cross match you refer to some of the abuse fired at the ref from the cross support was also unacceptable. again personal stuff, 'your only a little b*****d ollie'.

give out all you want about the standard of officiating but while this is being tolerated its little wonder so few are taking it up...
 

Rufus T Firefly

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Took in all of the Senior quarter finals over the weekend. I was eagerly looking forward to the Madden v Nab match but it ended up relatively disappointing. Madden I thought were very impressive in the first half, particularly in defence, and they snuffed out the challenge of the much vaunted Nab forward line. They had a comfortable lead at half time but then seemed to lose their way a little in the second half. Nab come back into it and Madden were indebted to their keeper (Sheridan?) for an excellent save to deny Gavin McParland at a crucial stage of the game. If that had gone in, the game really was up for grabs. Madden though ended up deserving winners.

For our match, there was a feeling after of what might have been. Our lads raced into an early 4-1 lead before Rangers started to control things and opened up a 5/6 point lead. However we managed to keep in touch with a couple of late points to go in at half time 11-7 down. Rangers started the second half in the ascendancy but when we got our first goal, it was game on. Rangers steadied the ship but our second goal put us ahead and we kept our lead into the third minute of injury time. We broke out a couple of times - in scenes reminiscent of Barry O'Hagan against Kerry in 2000 - but we couldn't get another score and Rangers equalised and then took the lead and we were thankful for a last gasp free from James McCoy to put the match into extra time. Both teams really struggled with cramp and tiredness in extra time. Rangers opened up a small but significant lead which we could not recover and we were maybe guilty of going for goals when points were still on offer. A feeling of one that got away, despite the pride felt in the Club at the efforts of our team. And can I mention our own Decky McKenna - who remains one of the leading club players in Armagh, as he has been for the last fifteen years. A hero in our Club.

Went to the Athletic Grounds last night. Both matches were played in dreadful conditions. Clans, playing down the field and with the wind, made excellent use of the conditions and had a 7 point lead at half time, with Killeavey failing to score. However a key moment was the sending off of the Killeavey midfielder which effectively ended his teams chances. Killeavey rarely threatened a comeback and were put to the sword when the Clans number 5 finished brilliantly to the net from a tight angle.

The second match saw Clann Eireann open up a lead at half time but when Silverbridge got their only goal (which to my non expert mind was surely a square ball) it was all to play for. However Clann Eireann took control and were able to stretch their lead with a series of points and a second goal, and ran out comfortable winners.
 

winsamsoon

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have you ever tried it yourself ??
was in the AG last night.
the verbal abuse directed at one of the linesman from a section of the clan na gael supporters was nothing short of disgraceful.
im talking about really aggressive personal insults on a first name basis
one individual in particular had to asked to sit down by the stewarts. IMO he should have been asked to leave
give respect - get respect my hole

and im not singling out clan na gael. at the cross match you refer to some of the abuse fired at the ref from the cross support was also unacceptable. again personal stuff, 'your only a little b*****d ollie'.

give out all you want about the standard of officiating but while this is being tolerated its little wonder so few are taking it up...
Not excusing any personal abuse as it's uncalled for, we need to be getting big calls right though. All refs will make mistakes and that is why the additional sets of eyes are deployed. The clans incident the linesman seen the punches to the back of Campbells head, had a consultion with the ref and they both got a yellow card. Campbell was battered all game, everytime he laid the ball off he was hit late and never got any protection, he goes to retrieve the ball for a sideline kick and gets punched on the back of the head and then receives the same punishment as the offender. This is as wrong as anyone shouting abuse at officials and needs scrutinised. In these big games refs should be culpable for getting major incidents wrong and they should be then left out of remaining games and it highlighted as to why we need to tighten up on this. It's the only way to get consistency, there currently doesn't seem to be any analysis of performaces and I know it also boils down to resources and there's a lot of great people doing great work. You must also take the point that it is frustrating for players, Fans and officials who have invested alot of their time and effort and tight calls are costing games in some cases.
 

Rufus T Firefly

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I was at the match last night. The incident happened close to me. It was clearly a Killeavey line ball and Soupy come in and essentially prevented a quick line ball, which Killeavey were desperate to take as they were chasing the game. That provoked a reaction from the Killeavey defender and he lashed out with his forearm, although from my vantage point I thought he had missed Soupy. Regardless, he could have been sent off for intent alone.

As for Soupy getting targeted, I did not see anything above and beyond what happened to a lot of other good forwards during the matches I watched over the weekend. It is a reality of modern football.

In my opinion, the standard of refereeing - like the standard of football itself - is very poor in our County. There is a culture / willingness to try and let the game flow too much and leads to a lot of undisciplined play which I am convinced has an impact on our poor disciplinary record at inter county level.

That said, I will not have a go at the referees, nor indeed the referees committee. Why? Because they are indeed doing a thankless, but essential job, for the benefit of us all. They are overworked, underpaid and get absolute dogs abuse for that privilege. I've asked before. Who the hell in their right mind would be a referee?

Referees are assessed and the best are put forward for the big games. But if you start denying referees matches - when there currently are not enough to go around - then you'll soon have no matches.
 
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