ragingbull
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game was a draw then it went to shoot out,antrim chairman stepped in & decided that the game should go to another replay instead of the game finishing with a shoot out good on him
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PatMustard
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I see. Why did they agree to have penalties in the first place then?
They had 2 sets and were still drawn so chairman’s decision was to call a halt as it was inappropriate for someone to lose at that stage
PatMustard
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I think it’s inappropriate for someone to lose on penalties at any stage.
JoeH
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The outcome will be interesting
The rules of the competition are known in advance
A team that was knocked out at the same stage of the competition may have grounds to appeal
As much as it may seem morally right the rules are the rules. When the referee puts his report in what does he write? Outside interference? If in a normal game where outside interference stops the game the CCC have to investigate.
I wonder was there a locking up time at the Dub?
Morally it may be right but under rule it isnt
What if a club chairperson comes onto a field and says to ref to stop the game as its too late or whatever - what would happen then?
PatMustard
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Good points Joe.
It is outside interference and I wonder if the referee had the power to ignore him and play on. County chairman or not.
I mean, what if a players Ma ran on to try and stop play because it’s past Billy’s bedtime?
I don’t agree with penalties, but if that’s the rules, then that’s that.
I don’t see anything wrong with it. Both teams knew the rules when they signed up for the competition
pablo
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think its a bit mad to be honest. I was speaking with someone who was at the game. I asked that there must have been at one time a meeting in which an official decision was made to go with a 'shoot out'? From what I understand, it turns out that the official rule demands another period of 5min each way extra time-so even the decision to go to with frees appears to have wrong, never mind stopping it.
Right decision - and a brave call by the chairman.
Why not have a replay
JoeH
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Because the rules dont permit for a county chairperson to stop a game.
Not because its late, not because it may be morally the right thing or any other reason. The referee is the only one who can abandon the game
ragingbull
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In Antrim football they do what they like do what they like....
PatMustard
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How do you work that out?
I imagine the referee will record as much in his report that it was him that “abondoned” the game due to some contrived “reasoning” even though everyone knows the true circumstances. I think it’s just one of those odd instances in GAA where the rules are broken but nothing will happen because of it. Both teams have had a hard enough slog at it and from what I was told were happy enough with the decision to replay. Also I’m sure there’ll be a massive gate there as well for a good cause.
Would it not make sense to have a golden score type of decider. After extra time restart with the first team to score being the winner. The game would be decided by actual play.
pablo
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I think its bit of a shambles and reflects badly on the state of affairs in Antrim-no wonder Casement development is at a standstill.
Should have gone to additional period of extra time (5mins each). Any body recall Armagh Tyrone in U20 championship a year or so ago when we won after second set of extra time?
As I said earlier-surely there had been some meeting that resulted in an agreed set of instructions distributed before their county championship commenced, as to what would happen in such a circumstance? That all then became null and void when the chairman decides to wander onto the field muttering 'hould on there lads'? Whatever about 'morally the right thing to do' in terms of organization which Antrim badly need, this is mad stuff
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Rufus T Firefly
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It would take some stretch of the imagination to blame the current standstill in the Casement Park redevelopment on Antrim.
With regard to the match the other night and the Chairman's intervention, my understanding was that he called over representatives from both clubs and got their agreement to another replay.
And again, I'm open to correction, but wasn't it free-kicks as opposed to penalties?
pablo
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Should have gone to additional period of extra time (5mins each). Any body recall Armagh Tyrone in U20 championship a year or so ago when we won after second set of extra time?
As I said earlier-surely there had been some meeting that resulted in an agreed set of instructions distributed before their county championship commenced, as to what would happen in such a circumstance? That all then became null and void when the chairman decides to wander onto the field muttering 'hould on there lads'? Whatever about er, 'morally the right thing to do' -organization-wise this is mad stuff and Antrim need to get their act together
As I said earlier-surely there had been some meeting that resulted in an agreed set of instructions distributed before their county championship commenced, as to what would happen in such a circumstance? That all then became null and void when the chairman decides to wander onto the field muttering 'hould on there lads'? Whatever about er, 'morally the right thing to do' -organization-wise this is mad stuff and Antrim need to get their act together
Fair enough-unfair of me to blame Casement debacle on Antrim. I have some connections with Antrim football, and there are some very good and dedicated people involved over there but it is disheartening to hear some of the stories of disorganization and disagreement that bedevil Antrim getting off the lower rungs. Regardless of whether the chairman did ' a sensible thing' it should never have come to that point and just re enforces the idea that they can't seem to collectively get their act together to agree on a set of instructions regarding what happens at the end of a tied game after first period of extra time. It was free kicks ( didn't mention penalties). Speaking to someone who was at the game and involved with one of the clubs, my understanding is that there should have been an additional period of extra time (5 mins each-as in Armagh Tyrone U20) before even going to free kicks. I have to get confirmation on that.
PatMustard
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Maybe one good thing that might come from this, is that clubs might vote against any free kick competition happening in next years championship.