Senior championship.

Diarmi

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Best team won on the day. We were very badly depleted but the boys who came in did really well. Young Reavey was excellent and Diarmuid Brecknell in defence looked very assured.
 

ragingbull

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It's very frustrating when your player is turning to kick the ball & other teams player is standing in front of him & the referee blows him up for taken to long
 
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It's very frustrating when your player is turning to kick the ball & other teams player is standing in front of him & the referee blows his up for taken to long
totally agree what is this rule meant to add to the game? was this one of jarleths ideas trying to fix aproblem that dont exist.
 
Was at the ogs v Cullyhanna game. Have to say paudie Hughes made a lot of errors second half. The free he gave for Cullyhanna which he turned into a free the other way for ogs for too long taking the free should have been a hop ball and resulted in ogs goal. Added time. He didn’t add any time for the water breaks at all, he only added 4 mins second half when a Cullyhanna player was down for at least 5/6 mins, there were many stoppages including 3 black cards and a red card. If he had of added 10 there would have been no argument. Mal Mackin attempted to claim a mark, spilled it and lifted it off the ground and gave a free in. Bizarre reffing from a neutral point of view
 

Diarmi

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Was at the ogs v Cullyhanna game. Have to say paudie Hughes made a lot of errors second half. The free he gave for Cullyhanna which he turned into a free the other way for ogs for too long taking the free should have been a hop ball and resulted in ogs goal. Added time. He didn’t add any time for the water breaks at all, he only added 4 mins second half when a Cullyhanna player was down for at least 5/6 mins, there were many stoppages including 3 black cards and a red card. If he had of added 10 there would have been no argument. Mal Mackin attempted to claim a mark, spilled it and lifted it off the ground and gave a free in. Bizarre reffing from a neutral point of view
I'm glad it wasn't just me thought this.
 

Throwball

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Never got to see Ogs v Cullyhanna game but the rules have changed significantly this year and maybe the referee was right and supporters wrong ? I know for example Lennon got blew up for over carrying in earlier match when he claimed a mark and stood still. The referee was correct. Plenty of debate at game though
 

Kem

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The GAA must be the only football organisation that introduces rules to stop the flow of the game and that is what the mark is. An absolute disaster.
On tonight's game the injury time was a joke. 2 minutes for the water break, about 3 minutes holdup for the foul on Duffy, about 6 subs made at 20 seconds each, plus a few injuries. Then 4 minutes added. Ogs deserved win but cullyhanna will feel decisions didn't go their way.
 

anonymous

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The ref in the Nab v Madden game last night did the same for a midfield mark. The Ballymacnab man didn't signal that he was taking the mark (didn't raise his hand) he then paused for a bit and the ref blew him up effectively for overcarrying and Madden were awarded the free.
 
I don’t understand how refs at senior level are awarding frees the other way for too long. Surely anyone that has a clue about football knows it is always a hop ball. The hop ball in the Cullyhanna v ogs game was more or less a throw up between whoever wanted to be in the vicinity of the ball, should have been 2 players from opposing sides with all other players 13m away from the hop ball. Bottom line, most refs don’t read the rules before games and have a big persona about themselves
 

winsamsoon

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Too many rules and what need for them, what do they add to the game? I can see no logic in it whatsoever. Imagine the last min of a championship final and a ball goes in and a man takes a mark and gets a free shot to win it. Two teams slugging it out and it's decided by that. Horrible altogether.
 

Diarmi

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I'm sure this also leads to refs getting serious abuse when undeserved as most fans will not be up to date with the latest version. I am told the decision to award the free in the other direction was he correct one based on the latest rule. This in itself is ridiculous as it takes the advantage of the mark away altogether. You would be better off not calling the mark at all!!
 

Armaghball

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I'm sure this also leads to refs getting serious abuse when undeserved as most fans will not be up to date with the latest version. I am told the decision to award the free in the other direction was he correct one based on the latest rule. This in itself is ridiculous as it takes the advantage of the mark away altogether. You would be better off not calling the mark at all!!
So it was given for too long to kick the ball? Surely Cullyhanna should have been given a free as the Og’s man stopped the Cullyhanna man kicking the ball.
 

anonymous

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So it was given for too long to kick the ball? Surely Cullyhanna should have been given a free as the Og’s man stopped the Cullyhanna man kicking the ball.
If the player didn't call the mark by putting his hand up, then it is just open play, and in that case the Ogs player doesn't have to get out of his way.

The confusion is caused caused by the ref blowing his whistle. Players have been conditioned all their lives so that when they hear a whistle they know the game is stopping for a free or a hop ball etc.
The problem is that the mark uses that very same whistle to signify that a pass has been played which qualifies for a mark, But unless the player accepts the mark (by raising his arm) then it is normal play. So now we have a whistle which means different things; hence the confusion unless players are really focusing on what is happening; which can be more difficult that it sounds as they may be watching their direct opponent when the ball is kicked and so is unaware that the ball that has been played may be a mark.

I think it is even more confusing on the defensive mark where the full back or Keeper catches a long range shot. The ref blows his whistle to signify a mark, but because no one really thinks about the defensive mark they pause whilst holding the ball upon hearing on the whistle. They are in danger of being blown up for over carrying. Crazy.
 

Rufus T Firefly

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The forward and defensive marks are an absolute disaster of a rule change. I actually thought the mark from a kick out for a ball won in midfield was a good change and rewarded some of the old traditional skills (high catching) but this is an absolute nonsense and is leading to total confusion. I honestly believe it gives too much of an advantage to the attacker, does nothing for the flow of the game and causes absolute confusion. As another poster has said, the pressure now on referees with the sheer weight of rules and responsibilities is immense. I sincerely hope this is reviewed.
 
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