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Naka

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Thought we have been excellent this year save for the Louth game .
Genuinely think there has been an attempt to play on the front foot and move the ball forward at pace which is reaping rewards .
Subs bench last night was seriously strong given the injuries we also had.
For me it’s a pleasant surprise when one is debating who you would drop for Rian and genuinely struggling to come up with a name.
Credit to management now let’s win the Ulster .
 

Armaghball

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Thought we have been excellent this year save for the Louth game .
Genuinely think there has been an attempt to play on the front foot and move the ball forward at pace which is reaping rewards .
Subs bench last night was seriously strong given the injuries we also had.
For me it’s a pleasant surprise when one is debating who you would drop for Rian and genuinely struggling to come up with a name.
Credit to management now let’s win the Ulster .
Yeah hard to say who loses their place- Conor O’Neill and Mackin obviously dropped out yesterday presume through injury.
 

Peter grimes

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We have played a very settled team throughout the league. For the second year in a row we have a very kind championship draw.

I can’t see us taking too many risks in the championship so the cork match is the opportunity to give a few boys a run out. Higgins is the obvious deputy for McKay and he has had very little opportunity so I would give him a chance next week. The O’Neill bros, Duffy and Nugent could all do with a start. Boys like McCabe and Forker could do with a rest so maybe McQuillan could step in there.

We are straight through to the group stages, we shouldn’t have to extend ourselves very far to reach an Ulster final. The second Donegal match has the significance of silverware but also is a genuine test, with hopefully a big match atmosphere. I am not getting too carried away with our march through a poor Division 2. Donegal, the Ulster final and the all Ireland series are the real challenges. We have done what has been asked of us thus far. Time to go that bit further.

The cork game is there to be used for our own purposes. It’s not about the result.
 
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POINTMAN

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Some people above not worried about winning an Ulster title?
Are you mad? Other than the All Ireland, this would be biggest trophy we could win!

Go win Ulster - then see how far we can go in the All Ireland. We have a very strong squad and lots of players who can come in and keep the team at the level we need, so let's go for it.
 

Armaghball

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Some people above not worried about winning an Ulster title?
Are you mad? Other than the All Ireland, this would be biggest trophy we could win!

Go win Ulster - then see how far we can go in the All Ireland. We have a very strong squad and lots of players who can come in and keep the team at the level we need, so let's go for it.
Yeah could see through it if we’d won 7 or 8 Ulster in the last decade and were at a level of wanting to stay fresh for the all ireland- but we’ve the nicest draw we could have wished for in Ulster and once in a final it’s there to be won.
 

Armaghball

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Blaine

McGrane
Higgins
Shields

McQuillan
McCambridge
Jarly Og

Grimley
McPartlan

Jemar
Rian
Duffy

Nugent
O O’Neill
McConville.


Won’t happen but would like to see a team like that start the next day- give the older lads a rest and keep them fresh for the bigger days plus get gametime into the Cullyhanna men and O’Neills and few others who haven’t played much.
 

Muckser

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Would be no harm try another keeper as Magill could use experience.

I would imagine a mixed team over the 2 weeks.

Its hard to know how serious Donegal or us would take either game. The job was promotion the trophy doesn't matter. Will we risk injury etc its just about fitness now but momentum could come into it who knows.....
 
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Armaghniac

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When you see a team like the proposed above, which has some very effective players, it is clear that we have good panel depth. This may be important as the season goes on.
 

Armagh_paul

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Will the Cork game be on gaa go or anything? Bit of a spin for a dead rubber.
Do teams not have to play for finishing spots to determine their involvement in AI? Unless they get to a provincial final they could miss out on their position.

Cork have to play Kerry in a Semi-Final
Cavan I really do not see them making an Ulster final appearance.
Meath are already there so it frees another space.
Louth could potentially be in the final as they play Carlow/Wexford win that and they get either Kildare/Westmeath/Wicklow
 
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Armagh_paul

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Are they not more or less guaranteed? They can’t finish any less than 5th and Meath are already in Sam no matter what.

Dead rubber for us anyway.
After looking at it it probably doesn't matter as much - would need some unexpected results but it is possible someone in D2 could lose their place.

Nobody is going to want 6th place in D2.

But yeah, for us it means nothing. As much as I like Cork I would like to see us win, winning has to become a habit for us and hopefully Cork put it up to us, it could be a valuable lesson in closing out games.

The famous words of Patches O'Houlihan 7 time ADAAA All-Star and ADAA champion

 
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POINTMAN

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For comparison purposes - Derry have their first choice 15 playing against Mayo. Interesting to see how they play and how they get on.
 

Big Jim

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Can't disagree with the vast majority of what has already been posted, but just a few random thoughts

We should have won by a heck of a lot more and management have a lot to answer for by having the lads relax and let Cavan back into it (Stop it @JoeH you know what I'm at :p)

Joking aside, some give management a torrid time and some of it is even unjustified. We cannot credit the line to much for yesterday except to say they sent the team out to do a job and thankfully they stuck to it and made it look easy enough.

D2 was not as easy as it looked and before the league started, many, including myself saw a few places where we could stagger and slip up. Unfounded fears as it turned out, but only as it turned out. Could easily have happened in a couple of games except there was difference no one else is mentioning. Conleith Gilligan. Gilligan has been successful in several roles before joining the Armagh set up this year. He has seen something to make him commit. Maybe it's a case that his tiny tweaks have been the difference when things didn't look so great. The team appear to be more free flowing for the most part and definitely less negative. As I said, we are often critical of what the line does. Maybe we could/should/would give a teeny bit of credit where it just might be due.

Players have done well and stuck to the task. The best statistic is the lack of goals conceded. 90% of that, in my opinion is down to Blane Hughes, the other 10% is down to the defence and the other lads stopping the ball getting to opposition scoring threats.

And Cork!! Never mind it being dead rubber. It isn't!! 100% it isn't. It needs the same attention to detail as we've shown so far. Why would you go out and show any prospective opposition a weakness? One week later you have a league final against Donegal. Win it after another league game win and you go into championship with a winning mindset. When did we last go into an Ulster Championship unbeaten in league. Many may not like Mickey Harte, but he has maintained that nothing beats a winning habit. It's a large part of why he didn't believe in challenge games. Not that you learn nothing from them, but letting players get game time and don't win each time you're out, can change how a player thinks. Negativity is hard to shake. Positivity is infectious. So let's get back in the cars, van, trains, buses or whatever it takes to get down and be heard. There'll be enough on the bandwagon in a few weeks.

As for the final and the real possibility of 3 Ulster teams in HQ on the same day, fixtures committee have no concern for traffic management or chaos. Never bothered them before AND it will be chaotic getting back up the road, so be prepared now. It would be strange indeed if they decided not to put the two top billed finals together. Not saying it can't happen, just that it's unlikely. As long as the diving midgets aren't there and Laverty doesn't get to walk out on the field, all planets will be aligned!!!!!!!! EAOE
 

Big Jim

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Oh and I know there's a separate thread for it, but well done to the Ladies as well. League final place secured with game to spare. They continue to be impressive and another massive achievement for the GAA family in the county be proud of. Add in St. Ronan's U16 ladies and a while back success for Cullyhanna, it's been a great and positive start to the year - sorry if I'm forgetting something
 

PatMustard

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Absolutely. Well put @Big Jim , especially your second last paragraph.

(I’ll leave it there. Don’t want to praise you too much, as your head is big enough :p).
 

Dylan53

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On today's viewing, and as much as we know the class he can produce, Rian is off the pace. As was Oisin in his limited cameo. I'd suggest that the 15 that played today are the best 15 at the minute.

Thought TK did well when he came in but I think with the exception of Ross McQuillain, nobody put their hand up for a starting place. And even then, who do you drop?

Crealy had a very productive game in the middle, his best of the year. Would have liked to see Jarly Óg in there for 35 but obviously not moving as well in training as others.

All in all, I think having seen Derry and Dublin come from D2 last year and preform how they did in the AI series, we're in a better position than 12 months ago even though it was D1 ball then.
He was off the pace last year as well, and didn’t have the best club season either. Always capable of kicking the spectacular free, but I think we really have to ask ourselves if he’s one of Armagh’s best 15 right now as outrageous as the question would have been 2 years ago. Also great that the squad depth is good enough to where there are multiples forwards pushing for his spot
 
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