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Hoops

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Jason Duffy, Ross McQuillan and Aidan Nugent. Three men who won an Ulster and All-Ireland with their club. Most recently the All Ireland in Croke Park - something that an Armagh player hasn't achieved in a long long time. Yet hardly got a sniff of game time in league or final. Questionable team selection and subs - but how dare we criticise the manager. 10 years and nothing to show for it.... yet.
Intermediate level, they weren’t even our best 3 subs on the bench, they wouldn’t have made any impact on the result. Nor would any other change in team selection we could talk about other than starting rian, our only player who regularly does well under pressure.
 

Armaghball

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Intermediate level, they weren’t even our best 3 subs on the bench, they wouldn’t have made any impact on the result. Nor would any other change in team selection we could talk about other than starting rian, our only player who regularly does well under pressure.
For all thag he missed a simple free. As did Turbo and Grugan.
 

GAAGael

Active Member
Intermediate level, they weren’t even our best 3 subs on the bench, they wouldn’t have made any impact on the result. Nor would any other change in team selection we could talk about other than starting rian, our only player who regularly does well under pressure.
Give me a lend of your crystal ball. Team selection and game plan was shocking, end of. Rian hasn't been at the races since Galway game 2 years ago - living on his name atm. An All Ireland is not easy won at any level.
 

Ed Ricketts

Active Member
Aidan Forker’s form must be a concern to the management. Not doing enough to plug holes in the middle of the defence, and a lot of poor contributions going forward. Withdrawn very early, and not for the first time this year.

Massive player for us for years and usually a reliable high performer, so hopefully he’s just carrying a knock and/ or pacing himself for a month or two down the line. But with so many miles in the legs you have to wonder.
 

Ed Ricketts

Active Member
While there may be doubts at this stage over the form and fitness of some established players, it would be remiss to ignore two or three new bright spots for us during that league campaign.

Blaine Hughes was mostly excellent, and we now have real depth and competition in that position.

Peter McGrane slotted in very well and looks to be made of the right stuff. It will be interesting to see him against some of the higher level forward lines later in the year.

And the star of the spring has been Oisin Conaty. He’s the real deal and a nailed on championship starter. His pace on the ball is fantastic and gives us another dimension in attack. Exciting to see how far he can go.
 

thecritic

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I'm just a little stunned after all of that. Imagine playing / training like a dog all year then watching a young lad handed a jersey for a national final in HQ (stuff of dreams) ahead of you. No disrespect to that lad who gave his all and was thrown into he fire unfairly IMO. Not the losing of the game but bad management.
The rest of the game - well, we've been here many times.
It is still early days but disappointing and I'd say Geezer annoyed with performance.
Did we retreat back again after going point ahead? All still a blur until I see replay.
 

GAAGael

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I'm just a little stunned after all of that. Imagine playing / training like a dog all year then watching a young lad handed a jersey for a national final in HQ (stuff of dreams) ahead of you. No disrespect to that lad who gave his all and was thrown into he fire unfairly IMO. Not the losing of the game but bad management.
The rest of the game - well, we've been here many times.
It is still early days but disappointing and I'd say Geezer annoyed with performance.
Did we retreat back again after going point ahead? All still a blur until I see replay.
Yes replica of Galway game................
 

JoeH

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Jason Duffy, Ross McQuillan and Aidan Nugent. Three men who won an Ulster and All-Ireland with their club. Most recently the All Ireland in Croke Park - something that an Armagh player hasn't achieved in aww long long time. Yet hardly got a sniff of game time in league or final. Questionable team selection and subs - but how dare we criticise the manager. 10 years and nothing to show for it.... yet.
In fairness their club coach is part of management so I'm sure their abilities are well known.

We don't see training so don't see what's going on.
We missed frees, hit the post and arguably three goal opportunities went missing

The weather this past week or so must have played havoc with preparations

It'd been nice to win today but focus now on Fermanagh
 

niall1980

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I'm just a little stunned after all of that. Imagine playing / training like a dog all year then watching a young lad handed a jersey for a national final in HQ (stuff of dreams) ahead of you. No disrespect to that lad who gave his all and was thrown into he fire unfairly IMO. Not the losing of the game but bad management.
The rest of the game - well, we've been here many times.
It is still early days but disappointing and I'd say Geezer annoyed with performance.
Did we retreat back again after going point ahead? All still a blur until I see replay.
They didn’t pick McMullan out of the crowd to play ffs. He’s been part of the panel all year
 

GAAGael

Active Member
In fairness their club coach is part of management so I'm sure their abilities are well known.

We don't see training so don't see what's going on.
We missed frees, hit the post and arguably three goal opportunities went missing

The weather this past week or so must have played havoc with preparations

It'd been nice to win today but focus now on Fermanagh
He’s the defence coach. 1 person out of a management team of 6.

Irregardless, all of those 3 lads were important players to feature for Armagh over the last 2-3 seasons. Went back to their club after last season and won everything in front of them. Then come back to Armagh and hardly get a sniff?

Our senior champions - dominating Armagh for the last 2-3 decades can’t get one player on the field?

Instead a 20-21 year old debutant (nothing personal against the lad - just an example) is entrusted to help deliver silverware?

Armagh had a brilliant league campaign, why? They let off the shackles and played to their strengths. Then today, shackles back on, mind games activated.

Have the management not learned their lesson from the Galway/Monaghan all Ireland QF’s and Ulster final?
 

Dylan53

Member
Are you telling me McGeeney wouldn't have give his left arm for that win today? A chance at silverware which he's failed to claim thus far. A chance to silence his critics, even temporarily. The momentum from that win would've done wonders for Armaghs run in Ulster.
McGeeney can only silence his critics by beating Derry in the Ulster final next month. A D2 league title isn’t changing any opinions
 

Ed Ricketts

Active Member
I don’t think it does anyone credit to exaggerate the potential impact of the Cullyhanna contingent. This sort of stuff is just divisive.

For what it’s worth, I really rate Jason Duffy and hope he’s back in for the championship. But McElroy has been occupying his role this year and playing very well. Understandable that Duffy has to bide his time right now, but he’ll be important again this year.

Aidan Nugent has really struggled to make an impact since his injury. I’m not sure who you drop out of Murnin, Turbitt or Conaty to make room for him, or how that could be justified. Hopefully he can get back to his form of two or three years ago, but he’s clearly not there right now.

And, for whatever reason, McQuillan is yet to deliver on his potential in an Armagh jersey. There’s just very little in his back catalogue of performances to justify significant playing time.
 
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