ragingbull
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there's only so many times you can go to the well
All Ireland series
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ragingbull
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Dublin vs Monaghan
Kerry vs Derry
Kerry vs Derry
ragingbull
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Derry vs Monaghan would be a brutal final but it ain't happening
gael_force_orchard
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We need to aim high and work towards that. If we ever want another all ireland we will have to go through them and or Kerry
GeorgeTowntoNewtown
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Still so gutted about yesterday but also agree with this. The stress of a semi final for my first summer in Ireland might have been too much to bear but I was 100% ready to cancel plans we had already made to get to Croke park. We will probably have more fun at that country festival than we would have in a semi v Dublin.
Orchard Apples
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When are the semi final dates and times announced?
ragingbull
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15th & 16th July times later or tomorrow
William Of Orange
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Shane McPartland penalties were very impressive for a young lad not once but twice fair dues .
And Oisin Conaty's - experience of soccer helped
Armaghabroad22
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Just re-watching the game.
Conor Lane's decision to stop play in the 73rd minute when Turbo took a shoulder was the most bizarre decision.
He didn't seem to know what he blew the whistle for and then settled with a hot ball?
Conor Lane's decision to stop play in the 73rd minute when Turbo took a shoulder was the most bizarre decision.
He didn't seem to know what he blew the whistle for and then settled with a hot ball?
I feel he bottled it and wouldn't make a definitive decision either way. So decided will throw it in and just blow the final whistle.
Have seen replays of it since and some angles it looks good shoulder, others it looks like it is slightly frontal.
Armaghabroad22
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It was very much a borderline challenge, and that's with the benefit of TV replay.
I think his instinctive reaction was blow the whistle for a free in, but having taken those extra seconds, I think he realised the gravity of the decision, knowing it would win the game for Armagh - and opted for a hot ball.
Nonetheless we had numerous opportunities to win the game for ourselves, but sloppy tackling after over 100minutes of football cost us in the end and gave McManus the opportunity to level the game in additional time.
Aidan Folker was excellent all year and he should hold his head high after that game, 3 brilliant points and demonstrated leadership and a cool head in the crunch moments. It just wasn't to be.
Orchard Apples
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Forker looked in a bad way when he was taken off...injured?
William Of Orange
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There has been a significant change since last year when we experienced a resurgence after several years of struggle. We have become the team that evokes strong emotions both from supporters and critics above and well beyond the success of the team considering over the past decade, we have had minimal success in college, club, and youth levels, at the start of this season rightly or wrongly we were regarded as contenders on the national stage, this was off the back that last year we played an exhilarating brand of football and our position in Divison one was seen as being secure in fact we were many pundits choice of winning the league, a season is a long time in football.
The big negative for me is the big accomplishment from the previous year, was the team garnered widespread county-wide support, has probably been nullified. Many had high hopes for the success of this management team but this now seems unlikely and a break up is probably imminent. Specifically, their objectives at the start of the year was to secure an Ulster title, reach at least the quarter-finals in the All Ireland series, and maintain their status in division one. If, at the beginning of the year, if it had been predicted that we would be competing against Monaghan for a place in the All Ireland semi-finals, the sentiment among everyone involved would have been an anticipation of victory.
In addition to a change in strategy towards a more defensive approach, there have been notable disparities in the performances of key players between last year and this year. Aidan Nugent, Stefan Campbell, Rory Grugan, and Jarly Og struggled to replicate their previous form, while Jason Duffy and Rian O'Neill, although still solid, did not reach the heights of their previous performances. The introduction of the Mackin brothers last year provided a boost in terms of pace and strength in the midfield and half-forward lines. However, injuries and limited game time affected their impact, along with various injuries in the half-forward, back lines, and midfield, preventing the team from finding stability.
Andrew Murnin stood out as the primary attacking force, but we may not have fully utilized his abilities. Conor Turbitt showed promise initially with his speed and agility, but his role seemed to diminish when Rian O'Neill played, suggesting a lack of clarity in utilizing his strengths effectively.
The team's composition is heavily influenced by the presence of Kieran McGeeney. However, it is worth considering whether his influence may be stifling the players, as his shadow looms over them. Alternatively, one could argue that McGeeney is extracting the maximum potential from a group of individuals who have had limited success at both club and county levels. The attention and pressure that he attracts may indeed have an impact on the players, and it is possible that this added scrutiny contributes to the team's tendency to relinquish winning positions.
To rectify the situation, a fresh approach may be necessary, potentially involving a comprehensive restructuring of the team, especially considering the impending retirements of certain players. A change of management could help rejuvenate the team and allow for the exploration of new tactics and strategies.
The big negative for me is the big accomplishment from the previous year, was the team garnered widespread county-wide support, has probably been nullified. Many had high hopes for the success of this management team but this now seems unlikely and a break up is probably imminent. Specifically, their objectives at the start of the year was to secure an Ulster title, reach at least the quarter-finals in the All Ireland series, and maintain their status in division one. If, at the beginning of the year, if it had been predicted that we would be competing against Monaghan for a place in the All Ireland semi-finals, the sentiment among everyone involved would have been an anticipation of victory.
In addition to a change in strategy towards a more defensive approach, there have been notable disparities in the performances of key players between last year and this year. Aidan Nugent, Stefan Campbell, Rory Grugan, and Jarly Og struggled to replicate their previous form, while Jason Duffy and Rian O'Neill, although still solid, did not reach the heights of their previous performances. The introduction of the Mackin brothers last year provided a boost in terms of pace and strength in the midfield and half-forward lines. However, injuries and limited game time affected their impact, along with various injuries in the half-forward, back lines, and midfield, preventing the team from finding stability.
Andrew Murnin stood out as the primary attacking force, but we may not have fully utilized his abilities. Conor Turbitt showed promise initially with his speed and agility, but his role seemed to diminish when Rian O'Neill played, suggesting a lack of clarity in utilizing his strengths effectively.
The team's composition is heavily influenced by the presence of Kieran McGeeney. However, it is worth considering whether his influence may be stifling the players, as his shadow looms over them. Alternatively, one could argue that McGeeney is extracting the maximum potential from a group of individuals who have had limited success at both club and county levels. The attention and pressure that he attracts may indeed have an impact on the players, and it is possible that this added scrutiny contributes to the team's tendency to relinquish winning positions.
To rectify the situation, a fresh approach may be necessary, potentially involving a comprehensive restructuring of the team, especially considering the impending retirements of certain players. A change of management could help rejuvenate the team and allow for the exploration of new tactics and strategies.
JoeH
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From the different angles it's very like Greg McCabes shoulder last year v Galway
Very fast, very fair but because the Galway player had blood it was deemed dangerous and he was red carded.
Very fine margins but these decisions are huge in the context of any game
Time was up
Timekeeping needs to be taken out of referees control at inter county level and a 'game clock' should be used at grounds where the system can be used.
Ask any referee they'll tell you timekeeping is hard to do. Everyone thinks they have right time but when it comes to the minimum of three minutes left that's open to interpretation. One ref will give the attacking team time to do so - a few blow at the time regardless of where the ball is
I don't expect referees to get everything right - they're human and can only call what they see.
But at inter county games where there are eight officials all miked up then I'd expect further assistance
They're great at calling indiscretions but not for in game issues. Maybe they can't but when some games come down to fine margins then the help should be there.
Muckser
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He had a horrible cramp right at top of leg