I see 1's saying Burns to start in championship, I don't think he's good enough. He's a very average intermediate club footballer. And although young Mackin has been playing relatively well ie bursting his B@llocks in, I think he might be better suited to a wing half position (back or forward) ONeill or Grimley are better options and footballers for midfield!
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Geezersleftfoot
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I agree with this
MrMaguire2002
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I agree also but I think Geezer will start him.
Armagh_paul
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It is a shame Rafferty isn't a defender.
Just a few points
- The game was decided on a mistake by our Goalkeeper
- The referee may as well of had a Kerry jersey on
- At one point we were 6 points down
- I felt our defence was very slack - not as interested as in previous games which is understandable.
- We never played well for the first half
- We did nothing for 27 minutes (that is almost 40% of the game) of the game other than make basic errors
- There are instances where better decision making was needed
- Jarly upped his work rate in that second half and that is when we started to play
The game was treated like a challenge match. Neither team would have learned much from that game with Armagh more likely to be preparing for Ulster now. There were a lot of uncharacteristic problems that have not been apparent in other league games but even still, Kerry would have given us some things to think about come the championship - which is a good thing.
One of the key issues is the 27 minutes of not doing much in terms of scores. We have done this a few times in the league but good luck to any team that has to withstand 70+ minutes of our style of play.
Just a few points
- The game was decided on a mistake by our Goalkeeper
- The referee may as well of had a Kerry jersey on
- At one point we were 6 points down
- I felt our defence was very slack - not as interested as in previous games which is understandable.
- We never played well for the first half
- We did nothing for 27 minutes (that is almost 40% of the game) of the game other than make basic errors
- There are instances where better decision making was needed
- Jarly upped his work rate in that second half and that is when we started to play
The game was treated like a challenge match. Neither team would have learned much from that game with Armagh more likely to be preparing for Ulster now. There were a lot of uncharacteristic problems that have not been apparent in other league games but even still, Kerry would have given us some things to think about come the championship - which is a good thing.
One of the key issues is the 27 minutes of not doing much in terms of scores. We have done this a few times in the league but good luck to any team that has to withstand 70+ minutes of our style of play.
Pete Mcgrath
Member
Disagree with this, don't think the game was decided by our keepers mistake we never looked like winning straight from the start. We only scored 6 from play, our defense was poor imo on sunday and our main forwards grugan and o neill were well defended by the kerry defenders. Also we only had one starting forward who scored from play in kelly. To say that the game was decided by our goalkeeper is a bit harsh imo as look how far forker was off clifford when he recieved the pass in. Actually thought rafferty had a good game kickouts wise and is good under the high ball which will be needed against the big donegal men as he is well capable of demanding his square.
Oisin is a loss as for me if fit he is a starter in midfield , in Mayo he looked unfit due to the injury and well off the pace when he came on .
Turbot also would be a starter for me as has pace to burn which is needed in the modern game
Team itself
Rafferty
forker Mc Kay Conor o neill
Mc cabe Morgan burns
Oisin grimley
Mackin Grugan kelly
Turbit Rian Duffy
Would play 3 across midfield
Let Rian roam wherever he wishes to go and keep Duffy and turbot close to goal
Turbot also would be a starter for me as has pace to burn which is needed in the modern game
Team itself
Rafferty
forker Mc Kay Conor o neill
Mc cabe Morgan burns
Oisin grimley
Mackin Grugan kelly
Turbit Rian Duffy
Would play 3 across midfield
Let Rian roam wherever he wishes to go and keep Duffy and turbot close to goal
MrMaguire2002
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No Nugent?
Armagh_paul
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Perhaps a rewording. It was the difference between the two sides.
My post wasn't really s criticism, it's areas we need to work on. But we still kept up even if there wasn't much to play for.
Mickey Gormley
Active Member
Yea but alot of them sports at a top level are professionals these are amateurs.
Pete Mcgrath
Member
Fair Enough, agree with the rest of the post, just believe that for our main game against donegal we need ethan in nets
The Dark Knight
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1.) Blaine Hughes
2.) Aaron McKay
3.) Aidan Forker
4.) Greg McCabe
5.) Conor O’Neill
6.) James Morgan
7.) Jarlath Og Burns
8.) Ciaran Mackin
9.) Niall Grimley
10.) Rory Grugan
11.) Oisin O’Neill
12.) Tiernan Kelly
13.) Conor Turbitt
14.) Rian O’Neill
15.) Aidan Nugent
2.) Aaron McKay
3.) Aidan Forker
4.) Greg McCabe
5.) Conor O’Neill
6.) James Morgan
7.) Jarlath Og Burns
8.) Ciaran Mackin
9.) Niall Grimley
10.) Rory Grugan
11.) Oisin O’Neill
12.) Tiernan Kelly
13.) Conor Turbitt
14.) Rian O’Neill
15.) Aidan Nugent
Armagh_paul
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Completely agree.
Donegal might find it difficult working their way through our defence meaning the only option might be to drop high balls down. I have said before I wouldn't be confident in Hughes going for such balls but Rafferty will come out and thump them away and he will go through players to do it.
If rian had taken his mark and Grugan’s shot went inside the post we would’ve been 3 up before Kerry scored.
A few things didn’t go our way especially refereeing decisions (calling marks for Kerry men before the caught the ball)
We need to go to Donegal and win… every match has to be played to win
A few things didn’t go our way especially refereeing decisions (calling marks for Kerry men before the caught the ball)
We need to go to Donegal and win… every match has to be played to win
MrMaguire2002
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If all available a quality 15. Morgan was the best player on the pitch at 6 in the county final.
Peter grimes
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Thought we did ok in lots of areas on Sunday. Never thought we looked like winning as Kerry seemed to be able to step it up when required. Ethan made an error but very harsh to say it was the difference between the sides. It might have been the difference on the score board but Kerry could have pushed on if required.
Ref was poor on a number of significant calls but again not the losing of the game.
1 criticism I would have of the team is the lack of composure at key times. Men soloing out from the back when there is an obvious risk free pass up ahead, not taking on the shot and the opportunity passing and a few shots landing short. Soupy being an obvious exception but there may be others.
A big day out in Croke Park and the experience that comes with it might not result in a victory over Kerry but it might edge the team on another degree. Never turn down a rattle at progress
Ref was poor on a number of significant calls but again not the losing of the game.
1 criticism I would have of the team is the lack of composure at key times. Men soloing out from the back when there is an obvious risk free pass up ahead, not taking on the shot and the opportunity passing and a few shots landing short. Soupy being an obvious exception but there may be others.
A big day out in Croke Park and the experience that comes with it might not result in a victory over Kerry but it might edge the team on another degree. Never turn down a rattle at progress
It’s a toss up between nugent and Duffy tbf
Nugent and Stefan might be better coming on
Jamie's Coffee
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Only getting to comment now for various reasons.
-The WORST display by a referee I believe I have ever seen. It was like he was trying to hand the game to Kerry. That said Kerry deserved their victory.
- Kerry’s defence is extremely tight and made it v difficult for us to function
- It shows how far we’ve come that we didn’t play well, got beaten by a goal by AI favourites, were missing 3/4 starters (if fit) and we were disappointed.
-We looked to create goal chances alwhich in one hand is great but you have to keep the s ore board ticking over….25 minutes without a score won’t cut it at any level in any sport.
- Rian was very closely marked and maybe should’ve come out more
Does anyone know the situation with Oisin O’Neill? Will he be back come championship?
-The WORST display by a referee I believe I have ever seen. It was like he was trying to hand the game to Kerry. That said Kerry deserved their victory.
- Kerry’s defence is extremely tight and made it v difficult for us to function
- It shows how far we’ve come that we didn’t play well, got beaten by a goal by AI favourites, were missing 3/4 starters (if fit) and we were disappointed.
-We looked to create goal chances alwhich in one hand is great but you have to keep the s ore board ticking over….25 minutes without a score won’t cut it at any level in any sport.
- Rian was very closely marked and maybe should’ve come out more
Does anyone know the situation with Oisin O’Neill? Will he be back come championship?
MrMaguire2002
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I think there is genuine hope he will. He would be a massive addition. Winning in Ballybofey will be tough as it is. A fit Oisin O'Neill would be a huge addition to any team.
MrMaguire2002
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Wouldn't even consider starting without Nugent if fully fit. It's a no brainer Nugent starts.