Allianz Football League 2022 Division 1

[h754136]

We’ll get hammered on this for two reasons:

1. The suits love to send out a strong message on discipline pre-championship.

2. There’s this idea out there that we got off lightly from the Tyrone incident.

The brawl is an open goal for officialdom to knock us down a peg or two. We are so incredibly stupid for offering up the opportunity. Self sabotage seems to be the defining feature of this group, and has been for decade.

 

[MrMaguire2002]

I watched the melee on YouTube. Sorry I did. I do my best not to watch anything from the partitionist RTE.

Can anyone definitively clarify that potential suspensions would be carried in to the championship? Or only apply to the first league game next year?

I have seen posts saying one or the other. Can anyone clarify?

 

[Armagh_paul]

I watched the melee on YouTube. Sorry I did. I do my best not to watch anything from the partitionist RTE.

Can anyone definitively clarify that potential suspensions would be carried in to the championship? Or only apply to the first league game next year?

I have see posts saying one or the other. Can anyone clarify definitively?

It will carry over to the championship.

 

[ragingbull]

 

[ragingbull]

I hear the Oscars Academy are investigating if Will Smith was influenced By Watching The Armagh match yesterday , The CCCCCCCCCCCCCC have said they are looking into it .

Will Smith ain't no Muhammad Ali

 

[William Of Orange]

Anybody any thoughts on the match ?

Main points for Me Nugent has to start games , Soupy far better used as impact Sub , still have issues in defense around man marking , not clinical enough in the championship minutes in tight games lots to work on .

 

[William Of Orange]

Will Smith ain't no Muhammad Ali

He must have done a bit of refereeing in his day because people were calling him the man in black ..... I'll get me coat .

 

[Peter grimes]

Main points for Me Nugent has to start games , Soupy far better used as impact Sub , still have issues in defense around man marking , not clinical enough in the championship minutes in tight games lots to work on .

Agree on all these points.

Soupy is a massive threat form the bench and picking the ball up deep and running at tired players. The last bit is key. If there is such a thing as game intelligence then he has it.

 

[Peter grimes]

Apparently Murphy should be in as much trouble as anyone for the row.

Totally stupid to get involved but also what are you meant to do? Stand back and watch your teammate take a hiding? I don’t think so. @PatMustard has a point, maybe if the championship draw hadnt been made then Donegal wouldnt have went out to try and wind up our big players.

Hopefully we get off with it but the shower of anti Northern c**ts that are RTE will keep baying for blood.

Either way lets go up to Ballybofey in a few weeks and hammer them out the gate which we are perfectly capable of doing.

This point needs examined.

Almost always the team mate under threat is danger of no more than getting his shirt ripped. The history of one player giving an opponent a beating is thankfully rare to the point of practically non existent. Lower still where the camera is rolling. Players joining in almost exclusively makes thing worse not better. They add danger rather than reducing it.

Keep your hands down and the chances of getting hit or dragged down is as close to zero as you can imagine.

 

[MrMaguire2002]

It will carry over to the championship.

You are absolutely certain of this? There does seem to be a mixed opinion?

 

[Armaghball]

This point needs examined.

Almost always the team mate under threat is danger of no more than getting his shirt ripped. The history of one player giving an opponent a beating is thankfully rare to the point of practically non existent. Lower still where the camera is rolling. Players joining in almost exclusively makes thing worse not better. They add danger rather than reducing it.

Keep your hands down and the chances of getting hit or dragged down is as close to zero as you can imagine.

I agree, but it’s all well and good saying that, actually standing by in the heat of the moment is totally unrealistic I think.

 

[Armagh_paul]

You are absolutely certain of this? There does seem to be a mixed opinion?

Jungle King posted a screenshot of someone who received a red card. I suspect the same will apply to retrospective bans.

 

[Armagh_paul]

I agree, but it’s all well and good saying that, actually standing by in the heat of the moment is totally unrealistic I think.

I don't think players can avoid reacting to such instances. Some pulling and shoving fair enough but there are some players went beyond from both sides. The bigger problem we have is the instigators look like they are going to get away with it. On the video it is as clear as day that something was happening with Grugan at the end of the match as the linesman briskly walked towards him and three Donegal players but the TV angle at least does not capture anything.

 

[GAAMAD]

Some of the responses on here are laughable. Its a physical game, and in the white hot heat of battle, these things happen. It was nothing less than pushing and shoving- both teams not taking a backwards step. There was absolutely no chance that someone could have ended up harmed in this. The game has gotten soft, who doesn't love a good row, it adds to the entertainment of the thing. I'm not saying we should embrace incidents like this, but the GAA as a whole should stop making such a big deal out of it. Also, some of the users on here need to catch a grip, using words like 'disgusted' 'sickening' etc when referencing the incident. Be interested to hear @Little John view of this.

 

[Peter grimes]

I agree, but it’s all well and good saying that, actually standing by in the heat of the moment is totally unrealistic I think.

Well that’s the way it is. If you can’t maintain your discipline then you will be disciplined by others.

That said I have yet to see clear evidence of a punch. I did see a headlock. One guy is in trouble

First and foremost it’s the referee’s report that we would need to see. That’s the primary source for disciplinary action. If an punch etc has not been seen and recorded by an official then any action based solely on footage has to to pretty clearcut

 

[Peter grimes]

Some of the responses on here are laughable. Its a physical game, and in the white hot heat of battle, these things happen. It was nothing less than pushing and shoving- both teams not taking a backwards step. There was absolutely no chance that someone could have ended up harmed in this. The game has gotten soft, who doesn't love a good row, it adds to the entertainment of the thing. I'm not saying we should embrace incidents like this, but the GAA as a whole should stop making such a big deal out of it. Also, some of the users on here need to catch a grip, using words like 'disgusted' 'sickening' etc when referencing the incident. Be interested to hear @Little John view of this.

You do see the difference between a physical game and throwing a punch after the game. There is no possible justification for that. I am hearing Murphy be in trouble for the latter. No sympathy for him if he is. And if it’s one of our lads and he is guilty then we will have to suck it up

 

[Peter grimes]

Very difficult to prove that there is a lesser Donegal player running around stoking this up but if there is then I hope they throw the book at him. That type is scum bag behaviour needs stamped out. I reckon that if the disciplinary officials can find any way of cracking down on that then they will

 

[William Of Orange]

Some of the responses on here are laughable. Its a physical game, and in the white hot heat of battle, these things happen. It was nothing less than pushing and shoving- both teams not taking a backwards step. There was absolutely no chance that someone could have ended up harmed in this. The game has gotten soft, who doesn't love a good row, it adds to the entertainment of the thing. I'm not saying we should embrace incidents like this, but the GAA as a whole should stop making such a big deal out of it. Also, some of the users on here need to catch a grip, using words like 'disgusted' 'sickening' etc when referencing the incident. Be interested to hear @Little John view of this.

Nothing you have said here is wrong but it still doesn't change the fact that because we got involved there could throw the book at us and we could be facing suspensions and therefore harming our chances of beating Donegal . Its the stupidity of it all that annoys me . Anyone who has played a bit would have all been involved in a row thats fine , but this was just so silly knowing the consequences of what potentially could happen .

 

[pablo]

Some of the responses on here are laughable. Its a physical game, and in the white hot heat of battle, these things happen. It was nothing less than pushing and shoving- both teams not taking a backwards step. There was absolutely no chance that someone could have ended up harmed in this. The game has gotten soft, who doesn't love a good row, it adds to the entertainment of the thing. I'm not saying we should embrace incidents like this, but the GAA as a whole should stop making such a big deal out of it. Also, some of the users on here need to catch a grip, using words like 'disgusted' 'sickening' etc when referencing the incident. Be interested to hear @Little John view of this.

If it was a case of simple pushing and shoving and not taking a backwards step in a normal setting, then there should be not too much to worry about. But the fall out from this will be depend on ref report and my worry is that any punishments to be doled out will be influenced largely by comments from sanctimonious pundits and hysterical whatboutery on social media. It should not be that way, but small minded parochial pressure has a way to influence these decisions with a view to take the upstarts down a peg or two.
I'm not 'gutted' by the actual pushing and shoving but the fact we were set up and got sucked into this. It is very hard to walk away and not stand up for a team mate who is getting harassed-but its likely that we will not get any benefit of the doubt in this case due to media pressure. Again, it should not be that way and we have to wait for ref report.
Interesting take on the game by Declan Bogue (not usually somebody in the Armagh camp) but who feels McGeeney may come away from the game the happier of the two managers

Donegal stay with elite as they have edge over Armagh

It was one of those days, when so much was on the line, when the plotlines are being refined for the Championship meeting between these two on April 24th, and there was a nice bit of needle after the final whistle, when you genuinely would have wanted to hear from the protagonists.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

 

[MrMaguire2002]

It's a matter of wait and see what happens. I strongly fancied Armagh for Ulster this year but should the free state throw the book at us - that's that.

When will an outcome from the CCC be released? If it goes to that. Wednesday or Thursday of this week?