ARMAGH U.20S

Big Jim

Big Jim

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Celticbhoy said:
I agree they have been reactionary but on your point a very few punches were thrown but punches were still thrown doesn’t make it different I was at the game as a neutral and seen plenty but with also peacemakers but it doesn’t make it any different. So do you think if it was a senior game the sanctions would be the same? My point still remains unless the rules are changed and enforced consistently this will happen again.
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I know on the night (assuming we're still talking about the U20 game as I'm not sure what your reference to being a neutral means as you've an Armagh avatar) it certainly seemed bad enough and then I was told after that it wasn't as bad as it looked. For players to be suspended you'd expect a sanction for striking or contributing to a melee. If it's the later then a lot of players etc will face sanctions from every game as a melee is described as a fracas or physical altercation between two or more people. That describes our game and that of hurling accurately. Would they have been as severe if it was a senior game with the same two teams and an identical situation? Who knows? There's no crystal ball so you or me are only making assumptions if we reply or comment either way. It's 100% impossible to say. What we are certain of is that this is the game that was chosen to stamp down hard. Possibly because of the fast reaction and spread on social media. I agree that there were much worse scenes shared from Derry over recent times, but this game was under the direct control of Ulster and they have their own video recording of the game so it was much easier to proceed presumably.

I'm not sure I agree though that changing more rules will stop it. Look on YouTube and search GAA fights and you'll possibly get thousands of them. It's been happening since the start and will happen again and again. Rules on speeding and fines have increased dramatically over the years and still it's something we see on an almost daily basis. Some will never follow all the rules!!
 
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bcb1

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Celticbhoy said:
I agree they have been reactionary but on your point a very few punches were thrown but punches were still thrown doesn’t make it different I was at the game as a neutral and seen plenty but with also peacemakers but it doesn’t make it any different. So do you think if it was a senior game the sanctions would be the same? My point still remains unless the rules are changed and enforced consistently this will happen again.
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I don’t think the rules need to be changed. They just simply need to be enforced consistently. Striking is a red card, anyone who strikes deserves a red card no matter what jersey they wear. There are rule for encroachment on the pitch from selectors and non playing members, including subs, which can involve bans and fines. As Calm1 said it had to start somewhere. It’s unfortunate it has started here with this game. No matter how good the game was, no matter how well we played, no matter who started the fight, as soon as a player, selector or fan lifts their hand in anyway that is in contravention of the rules they leave themselves open to a ban. End of story. We may not like it but the ‘poor us, why us?’ attitude doesn’t wash with me. If it was my own club I would and the same level of bans came out of a similar incident I would just say take it on the chin as best as you can and get in with it. There has to be a line drawn at some point
 
Celticbhoy

Celticbhoy

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A neutral at the Cross vs Cullyhanna game. Should of made that clear. If the rules aren’t changed how do you think this will change. Pick a few games hammer the teams then it will quieten down for a while until the next all in. We will agree to disagree on this one.
 
Big Jim

Big Jim

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Celticbhoy said:
A neutral at the Cross vs Cullyhanna game. Should of made that clear. If the rules aren’t changed how do you think this will change. Pick a few games hammer the teams then it will quieten down for a while until the next all in. We will agree to disagree on this one.
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Absolutely and at least we can have a civilised conversation about it. We all know it's wrong, just differ in how to solve it, but hey that's life isn't it!!
 
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Suil eile.

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Armaghmad00 said:
Only one player got off from the Ulster council appeals. The rest are for croke park tonight to see about it
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were theres life theres hope!! 2 more have a chance on a technicality I'm told but there comes s point were the starting 15 has to be called and they have to focus on the task at hand!
 
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Ard Mhacha 13

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