Championship 2021
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PatMustard
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Yeah that’s true. Sometimes though commentators talk too much during play (even the professionals). I wish they’d just let the action speak for itself. Frequent periods (seconds, really) of silences are needed too, to let the game breathe and the viewer to take it all in. Sometimes the constant need to keep talking is filled with silly talk.
PatMustard
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Aye, but you didn’t, so you didn’t. You need to think before you, er...oh wait...
Big Jim
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JoeH
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Could cost them a bit as I noticed that that over 65 ticket and student ticket are the same.
The clubs all voted this at the last county board meeting
I think it's time all paid in.
Sure if you go to the cinema, a restaurant,over the water to a soccer game everyone pays.
Anyway judging by the number of young uns on the pitch at ht over the weekend there doesn't seem to be an issue getting them in.
Completely different. Huge difference in going to watch a premier league game with millions of pounds worth of players playing and the lad that manages the under 6s a few nights a week that lives across the road. Massive difference in all of the examples you gave. Completely wrong to charge under 16s IMO. Not many other counties doing it
JoeH
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What activities do u16s go to that are free these days?
Swimming, soccer,rugby,karate etc.
Maybe it's not seen as correct to charge u16s - were they charged in last year - but I'm told, and I stand to correction on it, that it was voted on by the full county committee which is where clubs have the majority vote.
Armaghball
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Fair play to Cruppen thats a lovely gesture.
Up_the_town
New Member
I have to agree with lumpitin. I like to think of GAA being unique from other sports and activities mentioned above.
When you read articles from Tony Scullion etc in the past, they talk about promoting our game for young people and them being the future of GAA. I don't see how charging under 16's in as the way to go. If you look at Dublin, Kerry, Kilkenny or even Tyrone
games at ht and you see hundreds of children running about playing football and hurling. All buzzing to just share the pitch if only for 10 or 15 mins with people that they look up to, that train them etc. Obviously I'm talking about children a lot younger than 16.I know a lot of clubs all across Ireland are struggling to get numbers at underage. Hence why we see a lot of clubs merging at underage. Is this because of swimming, soccer, rugby, karate etc?
I'm not disagreeing that majority of clubs voted this in either. Above is just my personal opinion and one example of how we promote our game.
KilleavyGael
Active Member
I have to agree with lumpitin. I like to think of GAA being unique from other sports and activities mentioned above.
When you read articles from Tony Scullion etc in the past, they talk about promoting our game for young people and them being the future of GAA. I don't see how charging under 16's in as the way to go. If you look at Dublin, Kerry, Kilkenny or even Tyrone
I know a lot of clubs all across Ireland are struggling to get numbers at underage. Hence why we see a lot of clubs merging at underage. Is this because of swimming, soccer, rugby, karate etc?
I'm not disagreeing that majority of clubs voted this in either. Above is just my personal opinion and one example of how we promote our game.
Fair play to Cruppen. Short sighted from County board or clubs voting this one in. Surely it encourages people to just sit in the house and get it on armaghtv, or worse sit in the house and put the premier league on.
Certainly don’t understand the idea of charging for u16s. People are comparing to going to the cinema and the likes. These are businesses whereas the GAA is ostensibly a community organisation. The reality is that the families that go to games are generally dyed in the wool GAA people but not all of them are so we need to encourage that group to be there. U16s free, students and OAPs concessions. That’s the way it used to be. Should still be that.
Big Jim
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I do genuinely understand why there has to be a charge for U16s (but caveat it with U10s and below could and should be exempted) and it is entirely of our own doing. The simple word is insurance. I know I'll be told to wise up and that I'm wrong and yeah bcb is correct when he says those others are businesses. Whether we like it or not we are now a fully fledged business as well. There's no point burying our heads in the sand and saying "we were founded on.....", "we are an amateur organisation......." and all the other lines I've regularly come out with.
We all know of the payments made within our clubs and the county structure. We know that the buses that take teams to games aren't free - where before it was a few managers and others that took 10 people in a car or van to and from a game. The upkeep of the fields is a major cost to every single aspect of our sports. The goal nettings don't come free. Without having to list every cost, you'll get where I'm coming from. The sad reality is we're not living in the 40's, 60's or 80's anymore as much as I sometimes pretend we are. The past is exactly that, passed!!
It really doesn't sit well with me having to say those things and of course it's just my opinion too and how I look at things today. If I had a family of maybe 4 kids and a couple of adults attending games, then I guess I'd understand the argument about the cost - in truth I still do know that, but in a round about way.
It's massively important to encourage kids and the families of those kids to continue attending for the future of the sports we love, but we know in our hearts that putting our hand in our pocket is something we have to do even if it is a grumble doing it. Those £100+ boots don't pay for themselves. BP won't supply free fuel just because we're taking a 12 year old to training or a match. Everything has a price and that must be paid.
All that said, I'll make a complete fool of myself by saying I genuinely think it's a disgrace that kids are being charged to attend games. Not many will know, but a little research and you can find the facts of the family that attended a GAA game on this island and little Johnny played on the field at half time. He got a heavy knock to the head and spent seven weeks in hospital. The insurance claim paid out just shy of 100k and the court case cost a further 35K+ (yes there was discernible brain damage so it was a proper payment in terms of looking after the child as he grew). So I go full circle. The costs to attend games are entirely of our making. We want the best things provided and we want to claim when we can. £5 in a disgrace?? Yeah, but then there is justification for it.
Just a quick line on staying at home and watching it online or even something else. The argument has been played out 1000 times before. Those people were never really that interested in going anyway and most likely wouldn't have went no matter what. Those who prefer to go will go. Not true for everyone of course, but a generalisation.
We all know of the payments made within our clubs and the county structure. We know that the buses that take teams to games aren't free - where before it was a few managers and others that took 10 people in a car or van to and from a game. The upkeep of the fields is a major cost to every single aspect of our sports. The goal nettings don't come free. Without having to list every cost, you'll get where I'm coming from. The sad reality is we're not living in the 40's, 60's or 80's anymore as much as I sometimes pretend we are. The past is exactly that, passed!!
It really doesn't sit well with me having to say those things and of course it's just my opinion too and how I look at things today. If I had a family of maybe 4 kids and a couple of adults attending games, then I guess I'd understand the argument about the cost - in truth I still do know that, but in a round about way.
It's massively important to encourage kids and the families of those kids to continue attending for the future of the sports we love, but we know in our hearts that putting our hand in our pocket is something we have to do even if it is a grumble doing it. Those £100+ boots don't pay for themselves. BP won't supply free fuel just because we're taking a 12 year old to training or a match. Everything has a price and that must be paid.
All that said, I'll make a complete fool of myself by saying I genuinely think it's a disgrace that kids are being charged to attend games. Not many will know, but a little research and you can find the facts of the family that attended a GAA game on this island and little Johnny played on the field at half time. He got a heavy knock to the head and spent seven weeks in hospital. The insurance claim paid out just shy of 100k and the court case cost a further 35K+ (yes there was discernible brain damage so it was a proper payment in terms of looking after the child as he grew). So I go full circle. The costs to attend games are entirely of our making. We want the best things provided and we want to claim when we can. £5 in a disgrace?? Yeah, but then there is justification for it.
Just a quick line on staying at home and watching it online or even something else. The argument has been played out 1000 times before. Those people were never really that interested in going anyway and most likely wouldn't have went no matter what. Those who prefer to go will go. Not true for everyone of course, but a generalisation.
@Big Jim I accept everything you have written and understand your logic. The comparison with other counties is why I feel people have an issue with it. Also, it is a change within the county itself from previous round. I took my kids to the game v Madden and they got in free. I paid for them last weekend. The lack of a consistent approach is hard to accept. Or maybe I was supposed to pay for them against Madden but didn’t! All I’ll say is no question was asked of me
Tassagh Gael
New Member
Fair Play to Carrickcruppin, a brilliant gesture and hopefully a good kick in the goolies that the CB deserve.
ragingbull
Well-Known Member
that means the Nab would still have had a man more than the Ogs
KilleavyGael
Active Member
As a neutral I didn't think he was so bad. If you shout and swear directly at a referee like the man in question on a big championship day then you are going to walk. Some refs will let it go and some wont. That particular referee isn't harsh on physical play but is a stickler for manners, I haven't played in years and I know that, so should anyone taking the field. Id focus more on being annoyed at the boys stupid enough to give him sh#t.
I didn’t see the game but you have to know how to play the ref as well as the opposition. Some are tough on physical stuff, others on technical stuff, others on ‘manners’ as you call it.
I was not angel and got what I deserved over the years so I am not preaching but I never really complained. I generally deserved what I got. If you tell a ref to f#%k off or similar then you are giving him the power to decide your future in the game.