National Football League 2023

Wee man

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One thing of note even though it didn’t come back to bite us.
Every long standing Armagh fan has witnessed the number of late leads we have given up so in that context Rians long feee Which beggan caught and started their last attack was unforgivable.
How have we not trained these match scenarios properly. That ball had to be played short and possession retained.
Monaghan could easily have worked a goal on that last play and once again it would have been completely our own doing.
That passage of play annoyed me. We continually talk about learning but there was no evidence of it there.
I was going bananas when he done that f sakes 2 points up in the last min and they launch a ball into the square
 
I had spotted this in our McKenna Cup matches & hoped it would continue, like you I'm delighted to see this happening. My Dad had stated last year that this is what they should do, gather in a group away from the opposition, takes any opportunity for an altercation away.
You do know that in every match, and also in every club championship, that teams exit the pitch one at a time, with one team to wait to allow the other to move on? This isn’t an armagh tactic..

As for the match, armagh would need to get through the gears fairly quickly to pick up any more points in division one. A great passage just after half time but the kick out that led to, and also the foul for, the penalty were crazy and took Monaghan right back into the game. It is being papered over because he kicked a point.

Would be concerned around midfield for armagh going forward. Watched Galway and Mayo back. Completely different pace and intensity. We will have a better idea after round 2 of where armagh are at.
 

Armaghabroad22

Active Member
You do know that in every match, and also in every club championship, that teams exit the pitch one at a time, with one team to wait to allow the other to move on? This isn’t an armagh tactic..

As for the match, armagh would need to get through the gears fairly quickly to pick up any more points in division one. A great passage just after half time but the kick out that led to, and also the foul for, the penalty were crazy and took Monaghan right back into the game. It is being papered over because he kicked a point.

Would be concerned around midfield for armagh going forward. Watched Galway and Mayo back. Completely different pace and intensity. We will have a better idea after round 2 of where armagh are at.
Yes that's what is supposed to happen, but we know very well from last year that it didn't always happen.
 

JoeH

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Best two points scored last night were by both goalkeepers
Interesting that both keepers also kicked very stray balls at the same end of the pitch
Terrible pitch and so many shadows - lights may have been an issue for players.
Some bad shooting last night and players fumbling the ball who wouldn't normally
However our bench pulled the result our way especially Niall Grimley and Ross McQuillan pushing on.
We were better composed at the right times and two points in the first league game is a must.
 

northarmaghgael

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Great to get the league off and running with (what ended up) a hard fought win. First half was extremely poor from our point of view. Too many wides from scoreable shots, and still too slow at times building out from the back - there were a number of times we allowed Monaghan to get back in numbers and have 15 behind the ball. Let’s be frank, the 2 Hughes and McManus were a much bigger lost to Monaghan than mackin, McCabe and turbo were to Armagh. Believe we have bigger tests ahead of us.

All in all, good first day out. Special mention to murnin, thought he was outstanding last night and Rian showed glimpses of his form from last year. Roll on next Sunday, and hopefully we can turn over Mayo, who have been our bogey team in recent years.
 

northarmaghgael

Active Member
Best two points scored last night were by both goalkeepers
Interesting that both keepers also kicked very stray balls at the same end of the pitch
Terrible pitch and so many shadows - lights may have been an issue for players.
Some bad shooting last night and players fumbling the ball who wouldn't normally
However our bench pulled the result our way especially Niall Grimley and Ross McQuillan pushing on.
We were better composed at the right times and two points in the first league game is a must.
100% - our use of our subs were what got us over the line. Duffy and mcquillan both came on and made an impact. Hope this year mcquillan can push on and have a more active role in this Armagh team. He has serious pace and can take a score. Grimley also caught a great mark in the middle when Monaghan were starting to play their way back into the game.
 

gael_force_orchard

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Was always going to be a tough opening game especially in Blaney which is an awful pitch with terrible lighting. Poor first half, half decent second half and 2 points on the board. Mc cabe, Turbitt and a few others to come back. Can't read too much into last night. Mayo is the litmus test, the real barometer of where we are next week and the Athletic Grounds will be full to the rafters.
 

stevie_06

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Think yesterday we saw the major issue we have had over the past numbers of years and that is inconsistency.

Feel that at times from match to match we are either very average or on the top of our game. And recent times if we have not been top of our game we fail to get over the line.

Also feel through matches we go through periods of being very very average and losing control of games. Think we saw a bit of that yesterday.

We should have won last night comfortably but we didn't. For me that is a slight concern.

But overall happy enough with the win and can't complain too much with getting the 2 points
 

Wee man

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Noticed some supporters where I was sitting getting very nervous when Rafferty was making his runs forward
‘Oh God - he’s out of his goals again!! Get back on your line Rafferty’
But I reckon Rafferty is one of the keys to breaking down the blanket defence Several times we reverted to passing the ball over and back the 45, that is until Rafferty breaks the line, drawing defenders in and in turn making space for the inside forwards it’s a risk well worth taking IMO
 

stevie_06

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Aside from his point also thought Rafferty played a few great passed into our forwards line whenever he was up the pitch.

Might be wrong but think we 2 got scores as a result
 

Armaghball

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You do know that in every match, and also in every club championship, that teams exit the pitch one at a time, with one team to wait to allow the other to move on? This isn’t an armagh tactic..

As for the match, armagh would need to get through the gears fairly quickly to pick up any more points in division one. A great passage just after half time but the kick out that led to, and also the foul for, the penalty were crazy and took Monaghan right back into the game. It is being papered over because he kicked a point.

Would be concerned around midfield for armagh going forward. Watched Galway and Mayo back. Completely different pace and intensity. We will have a better idea after round 2 of where armagh are at.
Still Grimley, Crealey and Mackin to come in as options for midfield. Any news on Oisin O’Neill? A real shame we haven’t seen much of him for Armagh at all.

Bit harsh there, imo we got the result against a hoor of a team on a brutal pitch that we always struggle to beat, plenty of positives and plenty of room for improving as well. Great to have TK and Murnin back fit.

Special mention to Niall Grimley as well, super to see him back playing after his injury last year.
 

Armaghball

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Aside from his point also thought Rafferty played a few great passed into our forwards line whenever he was up the pitch.

Might be wrong but think we 2 got scores as a result
Yeah I think the positives outweigh the negatives having him in nets. Silly foul for the penalty when there was lots of cover back but plenty of good forward play from him as well
 

William Of Orange

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One thing of note even though it didn’t come back to bite us.
Every long standing Armagh fan has witnessed the number of late leads we have given up so in that context Rians long feee Which beggan caught and started their last attack was unforgivable.
How have we not trained these match scenarios properly. That ball had to be played short and possession retained.
Monaghan could easily have worked a goal on that last play and once again it would have been completely our own doing.
That passage of play annoyed me. We continually talk about learning but there was no evidence of it there.
Yea agree so naive just play the ball back and run down the clock , especially when we have a keeper that’s really comfortable on the ball , at least we got away with it and it happened in game one .

Positives our purple patch in the ‘premier quarter’ really won the game , this is an excellent trait , the Dublin team that dominated often had a below par first half and then put the foot on the teams in the 3rd quarter , however they didn’t let teams back in like we do …. but the positive is we didn’t win very many tight games in the past 2 years so this another good habit to get into. Also none of our ‘big players’ were at full throttle personally I don’t know how Murphy gave Stefan the motm award , however he did step up with the two late scores brilliantly taken but for most of the game he looked a frustrated figure ,Jarly Og , Rian , Nugent looked like they needed to shake off the cobwebs although you could fault their effort ,

Personally the goal keeper is a mixed bag for me high reward high risk , if I was in the opposition I would shoot at goal on sight as I don’t think Ethan is a good shot stopper , or has the discipline in One on One situations, or even like last night with the penalty, it looked like it was pure panic ,also there will probably be an error a game in the kick outs , in the bigger matches this could be the different, however he did score a great point , threaded through a beautiful pass to grugan in the build up to another point, and is a fantastic option in breaking down the blanket defence.

But although it doesn’t sound like it it’s a really positive start against a side who have always given us trouble , bigger tests ahead but , with more players coming in I feel we are in a good place . Mayo were good last night but with a new defence and home advantage I think we should beat them , which we haven’t done in a while , it should be a great match , Kevin mcStay will be looking to say hello to the Mallon brothers…..
 
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Ard Mhacha 13

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You do know that in every match, and also in every club championship, that teams exit the pitch one at a time, with one team to wait to allow the other to move on? This isn’t an armagh tactic..

As for the match, armagh would need to get through the gears fairly quickly to pick up any more points in division one. A great passage just after half time but the kick out that led to, and also the foul for, the penalty were crazy and took Monaghan right back into the game. It is being papered over because he kicked a point.

Would be concerned around midfield for armagh going forward. Watched Galway and Mayo back. Completely different pace and intensity. We will have a better idea after round 2 of where armagh are at.

You do know that this DOESN'T happen on a very regular basis in every match & also in the club championship. Seriously do you watch football at all, how many times have we seen scuffles between 2 teams as they make their way off the pitch & even in the tunnel. Just because it's supposed to happen doesn't mean it does. If Armagh are simply following the rules of exiting a pitch then I'm all for it if it means it prevents us getting into situations we should avoid at all costs.
 

Wide ball

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I thought McKay, mccambridge and the defense in general was good thought O'Neill did well second half very happy to see Ross mcquillan in as well. Great to get a win but thought we sat way to far back. Our midfield worried me before throw in but we pinned them back in 3rd quarter but then instead of continuing to do that dropped off and gave them the short kick out which was strange. Think the game would have been different if they had either Hughes brother or Kearns in midfield. I'd still worry about that starting midfield against a mayo or Galway. But I am happy with some of what I saw and a few years ago Armagh lose that game so good to see we can close them out
 
You do know that this DOESN'T happen on a very regular basis in every match & also in the club championship. Seriously do you watch football at all, how many times have we seen scuffles between 2 teams as they make their way off the pitch & even in the tunnel. Just because it's supposed to happen doesn't mean it does. If Armagh are simply following the rules of exiting a pitch then I'm all for it if it means it prevents us getting into situations we should avoid at all costs.
Haha I watch a lot more football that you do I can be sure of that. People on here championing armagh letting the opposition in at half time first is some kind of pioneering wizardry is what I was getting at. If it’s meant to happen and armagh haven’t been adhering then more fool them.
 
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