National League 2019

[Ard Mhacha 13]

Not many cause you dont see it happen much

I think the correct answer is none & not because it doesn't happen but because it hasn't been given. I am though looking forward to you giving just 1 other example which shouldn't be difficult if you are indeed a "gaa fan".

 

[Big Jim]

I saw Big Rafferty today, looking fit and well.... would be good to get him back.
Any word on Murninan, sounds unlikely he will be back for the league

Hearing similar from Lurgan

 

[Big Jim]

Good target men for making use of the 'forward Mark's- then an easy point for the taking.

Good Point man.

 

[Big Jim]

Clare will be very difficult on Sunday. We robbed them last year - a very very good div 2 side. A bit more belief needed up front to get that ball over the black spot and disciplined tackling required! Clare will be gunning for us!!

Yeah but we owe Tipp massively, Fermanagh for being boring, Meath because they're good at home, Cork because they bate us in Cork last time around and Donegal just to prove we can do it twice, so going by that...........

 

[Big Jim]

Ah now that's just plain wrong!

To me 3, 4, 5 and 6 are in reverse order just because of the number of scores. Looks like a 0-01 to 0-01 draw would be rewarded

 

[PatMustard]

Ah now that's just plain wrong!

To me 3, 4, 5 and 6 are in reverse order just because of the number of scores. Looks like a 0-01 to 0-01 draw would be rewarded
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Should be Armagh, Kildare, Cork then Fermanagh

 

[Nab14]

Any combination of grugan, Campbell, Clarke, O’Neill, Murnin, rafferty in the half forward and full forward line would be devastating, just about finding the right dynamic

 

[Ard Mhacha 13]

Ah now that's just plain wrong!

To me 3, 4, 5 and 6 are in reverse order just because of the number of scores. Looks like a 0-01 to 0-01 draw would be rewarded
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As I said yesterday ALPHABETICAL ORDER is the best way to do it

 

[spiritof98]

The positives from the game in my opinion far out weigh the negative. We dominated large sections of the game, and we worked tirelessly throughout the game we created some excellent scoring opportunities and looked threatening on their goal, and we they never really looked like scoring a goal much like Tyrone last week. Clarke is such a smart footballer, and I know it's frustrating to see him come out the field but it's next level thinking of the modern game. yes he's a danger inside but the angles he was creating by picking up possession on the fifty giving and going was really troubling them. I don't really conform to the notion we backed off when in front, as has been said before many chances were missed and possession was given up very cheaply but we were still creating the chances.

I thought the ref bottled a few of the late frees although I think he had a decent game. What annoyed me was he blew up Jamar for overcarrying when on the deck surrounded, yet gave kildare a free in for the exact same scenario.

The point lost could prove crucial at the end of the campaign but here's hoping it costs up a possible promotion and not survival. Sunday's game is so important, although I think I'll be saying that every week.

On a separate note, I feel its only a matter of time until we have a league type championship.

 

[niall1980]

You can't blame the ref for that yesterday Armagh were poor in the last 10mins given away a 5 point lead,they missed other chances like that goal that came of the bar how did he miss,they should have closed the game out,Why do I post here? maybe cause I'm a Armagh fan & a fan of Gaa ,should I not post on here?

Are you an Armagh fan? You seem to take glee when we don’t win.

 

[Bo Darville]

You need to lay of the Bull lads, you may not agree with him but there’s always some method in his madness and the forum would be a lesser place without him.

Besides, he has a point. The best managers will tell you to focus on the things you can control and forget about the referees. The man in black is outside your sphere of influence and if you really believe that the referee is the reason you lose games then you are effectively saying that all the preparation and planning is pointless as you have no influence over the outcome. By accepting that you lost because of the mistakes you made you create areas for improvement, goals for the future and a plan for success.

 

[portadownarmaghfan]

Enjoyed reading your post Bo and I rhink yours ia a point well made. However, I must disagree with the following:

if you really believe that the referee is the reason you lose games then you are effectively saying that all the preparation and planning is pointless as you have no influence over the outcome. .

On the contrary, all of the planning and preparation is essential - no point entering a game without it these days. Every stone is uncovered, nutrition plans, individual training programmes and all the rest. The problem arises when your opponent has done exactly the same prep. In that instance it will come down to variables or "inches" as Al Pacino once said (or was it Joe Kernan?)
So i think it is perfectly acceptable to be frustrated that after all the preparation that goes into the modern game, one of those fine margins could indeed be a poor refereeing decision/performance.
As for RB, totally agree the forum would be poorer without him.

 

[Bo Darville]

Enjoyed reading your post Bo and I rhink yours ia a point well made. However, I must disagree with the following:

On the contrary, all of the planning and preparation is essential - no point entering a game without it these days. Every stone is uncovered, nutrition plans, individual training programmes and all the rest. The problem arises when your opponent has done exactly the same prep. In that instance it will come down to variables or "inches" as Al Pacino once said (or was it Joe Kernan?)
So i think it is perfectly acceptable to be frustrated that after all the preparation that goes into the modern game, one of those fine margins could indeed be a poor refereeing decision/performance.
As for RB, totally agree the forum would be poorer without him.

I can accept that if, and only if, you have delivered fully on the gameplan without error. Then maybe start blaming the ref, or accept that you gave it everything and came up short.

I was speaking to a county player after a club game a few years ago. His team had just lost by a point and he was pretty annoyed with himself over an error he had made in the first half that led to a score. I said something along the lines of other players had made more mistakes and the referee had give them a few handy frees etc... and his response was ‘I can’t control those things’. In his mind the only mistake worth thinking about was his own and if he hadn’t made it the game would have been drawn. It’s how the very best in all sports think, taking responsibility for your defeat allows you to learn from it.

 

[bcb1]

A game of football is an organic, moving, vibrant, living entity and there are so many minute variables that will influence moments within the game but the reality is that single events or mistakes or decisions do not change results. People will say 'what if a team scores a goal in the last kick of the game to win it? I say why has a team allowed themselves to be less that a goal ahead? it was the 60 odd minutes that won or lost the game not the last minute goal. if a referee is particularly bad, you just adjust the way you play and deal with this. A team is where it is because of the talent available to it and the level of preparation that they have, not how good the opposition is, not how bad a referee is, not how difficult the conditions are, not what way the fixtures are set up. Control the controllables and the rest will fall according to how you react to the uncontrollables.

 

[PatMustard]

With all the talk of referees, I don’t think anyone has mentioned the penalty in the McKenna final. I assume it was for the ball being picked up off the ground. It wasn’t.

I’m not defending McQuillan. Jaysus, far from it. He’s a pinickity ref, and he didn’t have a good game. But they do make mistakes, and the penalty was the wrong call. It may have won us the game.

So, sometimes these things go for us or they go against us. So as the lads said, control the controllables, do enough as a team, and hopefully the odd bad refereeing decision won’t cost us the game.

 

[Pat Cully]

With all the talk of referees, I don’t think anyone has mentioned the penalty in the McKenna final. I assume it was for the ball being picked up off the ground. It wasn’t.

I’m not defending McQuillan. Jaysus, far from it. He’s a pinickity ref, and he didn’t have a good game. But they do make mistakes, and the penalty was the wrong call. It may have won us the game.

So, sometimes these things go for us or they go against us. So as the lads said, control the controllables, do enough as a team, and hopefully the odd bad refereeing decision won’t cost us the game.

Thought it was for a foot block on soupy?
Plus I thought the ref handed Tyrone at least 3 maybe 4 handy frees in the last 10 mins of the first half. On the other hand I thought Jarly og charged the Tyrone player for the free that Grimley missed! So it probably evens out but it’s hard watching bad refereeing

 

[Orangeade]

https://twitter.com/SportTG4/status/1090218297931517952?s=19

 

[PatMustard]

Thought it was for a foot block on soupy?
Plus I thought the ref handed Tyrone at least 3 maybe 4 handy frees in the last 10 mins of the first half. On the other hand I thought Jarly og charged the Tyrone player for the free that Grimley missed! So it probably evens out but it’s hard watching bad refereeing

Hmm might have been. The replay ran on until just after the pick-up, so I thought it was awarded for that.

 

[Big Jim]

https://twitter.com/SportTG4/status/1090218297931517952?s=19

No mistake with that one!

 

[Big Jim]

With all the talk of referees, I don’t think anyone has mentioned the penalty in the McKenna final. I assume it was for the ball being picked up off the ground. It wasn’t.

I’m not defending McQuillan. Jaysus, far from it. He’s a pinickity ref, and he didn’t have a good game. But they do make mistakes, and the penalty was the wrong call. It may have won us the game.

So, sometimes these things go for us or they go against us. So as the lads said, control the controllables, do enough as a team, and hopefully the odd bad refereeing decision won’t cost us the game.

Thought it was for a foot block on soupy?
Plus I thought the ref handed Tyrone at least 3 maybe 4 handy frees in the last 10 mins of the first half. On the other hand I thought Jarly og charged the Tyrone player for the free that Grimley missed! So it probably evens out but it’s hard watching bad refereeing

Guys I had a tough auld morning and being in the house this afternoon with everyone else out I put the McKenna cup final on again to enjoy and I really enjoyed it. Honestly did!!

The penalty was given for a pick up off the ground. The no. 5 had deflected Soupy's initial shot and then their no. 24 picked it up inside the small rectangle before dropping it and kicking it wide. McQuillan spoke to his umpires and then very quickly indicated the penalty signalling for a touch on the ground twice.