Senior championship 2018

PatMustard

Well-Known Member
To be honest no club game should be less than 5.
The £3 is ridiculous in this day and age.
A senior game of football for less than the price of a pint?

Yes, but is it not better to reduce prices and have a near to full attendance rather than a near to empty stadium at higher prices?

Does money trump interest and getting youngsters immersed and families interested in our games? And see their heroes as often as possible, and strive to be like them?

Yes we can't run things at a loss, but a happy medium is required. Ultimately it's the parents who pay in while the kids get free. If you price the parents out of it, the kids don't go.
 

JoeH

Well-Known Member
Personally I don't even think it should be as high as £5, it should be £3 as even thought it's a championship game they don't bother to provide neutral linesmen or umpires.
I think its been very well noted that there are not enough referees in the county despite the yearly search for new ones.
There was a lot of discussion about the new format at convention - the format and the logistics. This is the first year of This new format which is innovative and is being looked at by other counties
 

JoeH

Well-Known Member
To be honest no club game should be less than 5.
The £3 is ridiculous in this day and age.
A senior game of football for less than the price of a pint?
The unfortunate thing is that a lot of gaa "supporters" want everything done at their club but dont want to pay for it

£5 is exceptionally reasonable for the group stages

I have read that in a lot of counties that secondary school children are charged 2-3 euro into club championship matches and that county finals are up to 20 euro which is becoming the norm

So I suppose that most counties rely on their club championship to raise funds
 

Kem

Active Member
I think few would disagree that the families whose children take part in gaa sports get the bargain to beat all bargains in terms of how little it costs them to have extensive sports facilities provided for their children.
A Harps man told me that the parents of his 8 years old grandson who lives in Italy pay an upfront payment of 150 euros when season starts. There is a further charge of 10 per week and when adults go to the games they are charged 5 euros.
Try that one on the locals.
 

Big Jim

Well-Known Member
£5 for group games

My point being the people who made the original decision, the 'top brass' intended to try an fleece the average fan by trying to charge £8 for what is essentially a glorified league game.
:D:D I know. Sure I couldn't help messing with it!!

"Top Brass" is county management. Essentially the officers, Chairperson, Secretary etc. but the county board is the club delegates. I know we all like to think we can blame the management for all decisions. In truth though they can't make major change decisions without a vote of the delegates. It would be illegal and can easily be challenged, though few either know or would have the inclination to make that challenge.
 

Big Jim

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Folks it's the usual when it comes to pricing of entry into games. In theory as a paid member of the GAA, under the original constitution, no member should have to pay to enter a ground including Croke Park. Now I'm not sure if that was ever repealed or amended, but you certainly won't get in to any ground for free. I know no-one is suggesting that entry should be free, but assuming we all work, whoever pays us gets the money from somewhere. It's how we get the money to pay our bills. If they were to decide they were paying far too much for what we did (think of that in terms of what is being provided i.e. facilities etc) and decided it should be cut to 25% or less. Of course no-one would object, because we all want everything for less so it's fair that we are treated the same way!

Up keep of the ground, cutting the grass, fertilisers and weedkiller, machinery, flags along the sides, nets, line painting, cleaning the rubbish etc etc etc all cost money. I'm sure no-one would think of complaining if those costs were passed onto members of clubs or for the county or both!

A double header of County finals for £13 isn't bad when compared to some things that require payment on entry. €25 for each game in the Super 8s. Now that would be a scandal!
 

PatMustard

Well-Known Member
Folks it's the usual when it comes to pricing of entry into games. In theory as a paid member of the GAA, under the original constitution, no member should have to pay to enter a ground including Croke Park. Now I'm not sure if that was ever repealed or amended, but you certainly won't get in to any ground for free. I know no-one is suggesting that entry should be free, but assuming we all work, whoever pays us gets the money from somewhere. It's how we get the money to pay our bills. If they were to decide they were paying far too much for what we did (think of that in terms of what is being provided i.e. facilities etc) and decided it should be cut to 25% or less. Of course no-one would object, because we all want everything for less so it's fair that we are treated the same way!

Up keep of the ground, cutting the grass, fertilisers and weedkiller, machinery, flags along the sides, nets, line painting, cleaning the rubbish etc etc etc all cost money. I'm sure no-one would think of complaining if those costs were passed onto members of clubs or for the county or both!

A double header of County finals for £13 isn't bad when compared to some things that require payment on entry. €25 for each game in the Super 8s. Now that would be a scandal!

Tyrone's expenditure for line painting went down this year apparently.
 

Big Jim

Well-Known Member
Tyrone's expenditure for line painting went down this year apparently.
Well yeah there was that. Maybe we could make all the fields smaller, say 1 metre square. Only one player needed per team = no big expnses, could be cut with scissors, a litre of line paint would last 10 years, supporter could hold a mobile phone light up for floodlighting and both supporters would only have to pay 20p entry. Maybe they..............you could be on to something.
 

Dinger85

New Member
Any chance of the co board releasing the fixtures for the championship starting next Fri.. they have known the dates from January, teams only have 9 days to get training schedules ready for next wk. Down Championship draws were done on Monday night and venues and times were released yesterday morning..
 

ShiftYa

Well-Known Member
Any chance of the co board releasing the fixtures for the championship starting next Fri.. they have known the dates from January, teams only have 9 days to get training schedules ready for next wk. Down Championship draws were done on Monday night and venues and times were released yesterday morning..
They promised on the stream on Monday that they'd be posted to the website that night or if not the next morning. Just goes to show they can't be trusted to keep their word.
 

Big Jim

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They promised on the stream on Monday that they'd be posted to the website that night or if not the next morning. Just goes to show they can't be trusted to keep their word.
But all the groups and dates are on the website. First games aren't until weekend 24th-27th August. They did do exactly as they said "the games and dates will be on the website as soon as possible, hopefully tonight or tomorrow and CCC will arrange times and venues as soon as possible".

I wouldn't trust some of them to fry an egg, but on this I think they've done what they said so far. I think the wait until most people were in bed was a great idea too!
 

armaghlad

Active Member
Really shouldnt be that difficult. Posting weekend 24-27th August is not giving the dates. May as well just tell teams their championship match is in August. How can down be onto their second round complete with winners and losers draw done for both senior and intermediate championships and we can’t even get dates for our first round of matches!?
 

Orchard Loyal

New Member
Intermediate & Senior fixtures sent out there about half an hour ago.
 

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Rufus T Firefly

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They promised on the stream on Monday that they'd be posted to the website that night or if not the next morning. Just goes to show they can't be trusted to keep their word.

Yes, there was clearly a major conspiracy afoot. I mean, how else can it be explained that fixture dates were delayed from being published?

You'll know anyway that the Chairman of the CCC at the meeting stated that fixture dates were going to have to be arranged whilst taking into account a wide range of specific requests from a variety of clubs around preferred dates?

In light of your criticism above, the CCC should simply have imposed dates, irrespective of requests, and told everyone to get on with it. The schedule would have thus been issued promptly, and there'd definitely be no complaints from club members such as yourself when your team, missing five players due to a wedding that the 'County Board' were notified of, were told to get on with it.
 
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armaghlad

Active Member
In light of your criticism above, the CCC should simply have imposed dates, irrespective of requests, and told everyone to get on with it. The schedule would have thus been issued promptly, and there'd definitely be no complaints from club members such as yourself when your team, missing five players due to a wedding that the 'County Board' were notified of, were told to get on with it.
I think the frustration with the CCCCCCCCCCC is their inconsistency. For example, I seem to recall no wiggle room for dromintee v cross a few years back, they became the laughing stock of Ulster and beyond with wrangler-gate. Contrast that with this year with clubs being granted games called off left right and centre because they’d some 17 year old on the Armagh u20 panel, or because their u14s were away to Meath to play in division 19 of the feile. Why do the draw at 10pm on a Monday night, should have been done the second the last league fixture was finished and all seeding settled with fixtures released that night or the following morning.
 

Rufus T Firefly

Well-Known Member
I think the frustration with the CCCCCCCCCCC is their inconsistency. For example, I seem to recall no wiggle room for dromintee v cross a few years back, they became the laughing stock of Ulster and beyond with wrangler-gate. Contrast that with this year with clubs being granted games called off left right and centre because they’d some 17 year old on the Armagh u20 panel, or because their u14s were away to Meath to play in division 19 of the feile. Why do the draw at 10pm on a Monday night, should have been done the second the last league fixture was finished and all seeding settled with fixtures released that night or the following morning.

Might the CCC have recognised the criticism around 'wrangler-gate' was justified and responded accordingly? There are definitely changes to the make up of the CCC personnel from back then. New Chief, new rules?

The sense I get is that people want to criticise, regardless, and they'll take any opportunity to do so.
 
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