ragingbull
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result Clann Eireann 2nds 1-6 Fintona 0-16 
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Senior championship 2022 & 2023
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winsamsoon
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I see the U-21 semi fixtures are out, Our game is fixed but the Cross game is TBC, surely there cannot be a delay because of Cross seniors in the Ulster as this wouldn't be fair on either Kileavey, Clans or Clann Eireann. Silverbridge have already set this precedent, it will be interesting to see how this pans out.What about the Silverbridge lads taking the points from the U-21 game against the Clans on the week leading to the championship final and being allowed to do so
Killeavy took the points against madden too in the groups, scored a goal into an empty net. Bit of a shambles all round.
Happened a while ago
winsamsoon
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I was just going to post that alright about the bookies odds, heard to now what way it will go, if Errigal had have won i still think they would have got the better of Cross but with it being Trillick i thing the pendulem swings back in Cross Favour now
apart from Lee and Rory Brennan and Ritchie Donnelly i can't think of any other players of note on their team that spring to mind ( Mattie Donnelly obviously but he is injured).
Although having said that they are obviously a very good battle hardened team to be able to win Tyrone championship and will take some beating
how much will the extra time have taken out of them though plus the celebrations and less recovery time than Cross, has to be a massive factor in deciding the outcome.
Cross by 2-3 points
@BCB 1 how do you see the game panning out.?
apart from Lee and Rory Brennan and Ritchie Donnelly i can't think of any other players of note on their team that spring to mind ( Mattie Donnelly obviously but he is injured).
Although having said that they are obviously a very good battle hardened team to be able to win Tyrone championship and will take some beating
how much will the extra time have taken out of them though plus the celebrations and less recovery time than Cross, has to be a massive factor in deciding the outcome.
Cross by 2-3 points
@BCB 1 how do you see the game panning out.?
I'd agree with you I think cross edge it and I hope they do, I think trillick will compete better in midfield with cross but that full forward line that errigal Ciaran had would cause some trouble to the weakest line for cross but trillick although good not as good maybe, on the intermediate game obviously mcgeary and burns will take some stopping but for me mcquillan, Duffy, Nugent and hoey will take some stopping by any team, Hugh pat mcgeary will probably pick up Nugent but I think cullyhanna have too many fires to put out
Would agree about Cullyhanna having too many fires to put out. They are a good team but Tyrone Intermediate is not a million miles off Armagh senior. Very little difference between the teams over there. Pomeroy will have too much.
I said it on the GAA Board that if EC had won yesterday they’d be going in as favourites against us so it would be u wise to underestimate Trillick. Healy Park is a tough pitch to play on so that will give them an advantage. Evening games are notoriously hard to win, particularly for the away team. Yesterday will have taken it out of them and we have an extra week. Much will depend on how their players come out of yesterday. We have the ability to win but it’s definitely not a given. The ref will be important too as it will be a physical contest, maybe Paul Faloon….he is technically a Down ref!!!
I said it on the GAA Board that if EC had won yesterday they’d be going in as favourites against us so it would be u wise to underestimate Trillick. Healy Park is a tough pitch to play on so that will give them an advantage. Evening games are notoriously hard to win, particularly for the away team. Yesterday will have taken it out of them and we have an extra week. Much will depend on how their players come out of yesterday. We have the ability to win but it’s definitely not a given. The ref will be important too as it will be a physical contest, maybe Paul Faloon….he is technically a Down ref!!!
ragingbull
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See Stephen Cusack from Maghery is the new Granemore manager
PatMustard
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Has he retired then? Great player to watch.
Unfortunately you can drop down in the league it appears but for championship you are graded in the last championship you play the previous year. My understanding of the rule is you can play league for seniors and championship for juniors which CE did (Well within the rules to be fair to them!) HQ rule book dictates the way it works but IMO it should be a junior panel named for the year rather than the trading between league.
For clarity this isn't anything to do with CE, it has always been my gripe as plenty have exercised this before. As alluded above you never knew who you would face on any given week with Cross or the South Armagh sides when they were going well with their reserves. The harsh answer is work harder as a club and you can do that too doesn't ring true before anyone quotes it!
ShiftYa
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If a players given a few run outs with the senior squad and told he’s not up to senior level this year and got no senior championship football the year before it’d be unfair not to let him drop down.
Interesting. I can see why it might seem unfair to other junior clubs; but if the likes of CE aren’t fielding in the reserve leagues then their fringe senior players wouldn’t get much football if they weren’t allowed to drop down. I presume players aren’t allowed to yo-yo between Is and IIs?
If men have played 5/10 mins here or there for the first team in the league but haven’t actually played senior championship the previous year; surely clubs like CE, Cross etc are entitled to play them in the Junior championship?
I agree with the sentiment but ultimately for me I think the only way it is fair is if you name players for the season. It takes care of the few loop holes that exist.
What is the point of playing a junior team if they aren't really that? As I say, this isn't sour grapes but it isn't fair on those who are doing their best to be just that, a junior team.
The issue for me isn't the clubs, it is the system.
Yeah I’d say in an ideal world you’d have two completely separate entities.
That said, if CE or Cross have 40+ fellas (most of whom wouldn’t look out of place at senior) and they name two separate panels what difference will it make? Other than denying players on the fringes of the senior team game time. If it’s ok at reserve level (depending on whether they started the previous week) why not at Junior level?
Just playing devil’s advocate here by the way, it would be interesting to see how things fared if rules around IIs teams was tightened up.
ShiftYa
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2 of the 3 seconds teams in Armagh will be playing Intermediate next year.
You could argue because of this 2 extra clubs will get a crack at the junior next year which otherwise wouldn’t.
I don’t believe there’s abuse of the rules around seconds and if they facilitate more competitive teams in our competitions all the better, hopefully it’ll lift the standard of club football as a whole within the county which isn’t in the best of shape.
You could argue because of this 2 extra clubs will get a crack at the junior next year which otherwise wouldn’t.
I don’t believe there’s abuse of the rules around seconds and if they facilitate more competitive teams in our competitions all the better, hopefully it’ll lift the standard of club football as a whole within the county which isn’t in the best of shape.
Armaghball
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They cant go up. Cant have 2 teams in the one grade. Junior clubs be safer getting thei own houses in order. It’s a credit to any club if they can field 2 or 3 teams
What happens of clann eirean get dumped to intermediate (not gonna happen) can they both be intermediate?
JoeH
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The seconds drop a division