gael_force_orchard
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Potentially not the right place to be posting or even not right to post at all. But certainly a thread on armagh club football in general is needed.
Senior championship
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gael_force_orchard
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I'd say there should be an option available for clubs where appropriate to lend players to a team for a year or so when needed. Definitely be B team players or extended squad players in South Armagh who would be glad to get regular game time. Maybe something that should be looked at.
Armaghball
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Think the standard genuinely isn’t there across all 3 grades, there’s probably only 5 senior standard clubs in Armagh if that. Grange are a fairly strong team but I’d say they celebrated winning Armagh too hard no disrepect to them, which seems to be a recurring theme for Armagh clubs bar Cross.
Best place for them lol
How do you define a senior standard club? Not saying I disagree but for example I’d consider Cullyhanna senior standard and yet they got relegated. Agree on the Grange, probably had little interest in Ulster. Likewise Collegeland.
I think the way Armagh has split the senior and intermediate divisions up has been the best approach, as you would have a senior team like Cullyhanna, who are senior standard but presently not at the upper end of that scale. There is a good safeguard for teams so that regression and transition is handled better, as all teams will have a period of regression and transition regardless of who they are.
Big Jim
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You aright lad??
Not like ye to have a sensible suggestion!
You are wrong of course, but nice to see ye taking it seriously
PatMustard
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I’d go back to 16 teams in each division. None of this A and B malarkey.
ragingbull
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Collegeland were the only armagh club to win a game in the ulster club championship
JoeH
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Also all three monaghan championship wimners made it to their respective semi-finals with one, blackhill, into the ulster junior final
ragingbull
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same for donegal clubs
nothing wrong with our league structures. Teams just drink the heads of themselves when they win an armagh championship and Ulster is just bonus territory. No club apart from cross in armagh set out to win an ulster at the start of the year. There is no problem with our standard.
Armaghball
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I’m sure teams in every other county celebrate like mad eejits as well when they win championships. Question is why Armagh teams can’t compete in Ulster, or why do we as a county seem to have the attitude that Ulster is just bonus territory? Do clubs in other counties think like that as well?
Armagh teams can compete in Ulster, Port Mor won an ulster junior title a few years ago, cross were kingpins of ireland for years. this is nonsense talk. Other counties have more numbers and are more competitive meaning that teams that would be regarded as senior in armagh would be playing ulster intermediate and teams that would be regarded as intermediate in armagh are playing ulster junior.
Armaghball
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One Ulster Junior in how many years? Not criticising Grange or Collegeland or Peters or Keady last year or any of our championship winners from the past few years, but the record is poor. Cross of old are the exception to the rule clearly. Doesn’t look good that Cross can waltz through Armagh so easily and then get beat in Ulster this past 2 years. Surely as a county we should be aiming to push for Ulsters at all grades.
The Fisherman
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on behalf of the Grange men, we had not won the intermediate from 1993, that was the most important thing for us, not representing Armagh at Ulster level
That is exactly the point i was making. Most clubs dream of winning the armagh championship and that is it. Ulster is nice and all but the hunger for it just wouldnt be the same, you wouldnt see a player crying if they lost an ulster game, relieved the season is over in a way actually. It is a long year, every year!