The GAA have ruined football
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ShiftYa
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Agree with Joe, we asked for the spilt season and as a whole works well.
The midfield mark is a positive development, the forward mark should go.
Penalty’s possibly could be swapped with next
score wins with a toss to select direction of play and a shot clock if the game drags on too long, but games need to be settled on the day.
It’s less so the GAA that’s ruined football moreso managers have brought in ‘modern tactics’ and the rule book hasn’t changed in a way that’s kept the flow games 25 years ago would of had.
Why is the tailteann cup an embarrassment?
The midfield mark is a positive development, the forward mark should go.
Penalty’s possibly could be swapped with next
score wins with a toss to select direction of play and a shot clock if the game drags on too long, but games need to be settled on the day.
It’s less so the GAA that’s ruined football moreso managers have brought in ‘modern tactics’ and the rule book hasn’t changed in a way that’s kept the flow games 25 years ago would of had.
Why is the tailteann cup an embarrassment?
Its unnecessary and rewards mediocrity.
The point I'm making is that continually tinkering with the format is not good. I know changes are voted on but the end product needs to be better, not worse, in order for the changes to be worthwhile.
Also, changing cultural parts of the GAA is short sighted , the traditions are part of what we love about the game. The reason I'm against the Tailteann cup is because the new championship format as a whole is a disaster. Turn outs are low and the quality is generally poor , apart from the odd game.
I think the entire back door format needs scrapped- can anyone hand on heart say that the back door has improved the experience? Realistically no one from the North wants to be driving to Offaly or Carlow on a Saturday evening to watch piss poor teams in a cow shed.
Also, changing cultural parts of the GAA is short sighted , the traditions are part of what we love about the game. The reason I'm against the Tailteann cup is because the new championship format as a whole is a disaster. Turn outs are low and the quality is generally poor , apart from the odd game.
I think the entire back door format needs scrapped- can anyone hand on heart say that the back door has improved the experience? Realistically no one from the North wants to be driving to Offaly or Carlow on a Saturday evening to watch piss poor teams in a cow shed.
thehighballinlow
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thehighballinlow
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replied before i look at your response. Good minds think alike haha
Your talking about club football though , I'm not
thehighballinlow
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ok should we have waterford or carlow in the snr all ireland championship?
How do you think they would fair?
If we added Eire og or ballyhagen to the snr championship would that be fair?
How do you think they would fair?
If we added Eire og or ballyhagen to the snr championship would that be fair?
The real elephant in the room is the lop sided county structure with 2 teams consistently dominating.
Dublin or Kerry have been involved in 18 of the last 23 senior finals.
No matter what way they structure the championship these 2 counties will continue to dominate.
Dublin especially have nearly limitless resources in terms of population and finance
For me that is what spoils the championship, the sense of inevitability.
And the attendance at yesterdays semi final says it all - nearly 40000 empty seats for an All Ireland semi final is an embarrassment (although it turned out to be an excellent game Kerry were widely expected to win and the neutral had no interest)
They can move the deck chairs all they want but until they address this, the interest in the AI will continue to decline.
Dublin or Kerry have been involved in 18 of the last 23 senior finals.
No matter what way they structure the championship these 2 counties will continue to dominate.
Dublin especially have nearly limitless resources in terms of population and finance
For me that is what spoils the championship, the sense of inevitability.
And the attendance at yesterdays semi final says it all - nearly 40000 empty seats for an All Ireland semi final is an embarrassment (although it turned out to be an excellent game Kerry were widely expected to win and the neutral had no interest)
They can move the deck chairs all they want but until they address this, the interest in the AI will continue to decline.
can see the football final being moved to mid August as the congested season is costing croke park as not as many travelling to games in teh city.
apart from taht everything is working fine, save that i would dispense with penalties as dont think its a fair way to decide games in gaelic football
apart from taht everything is working fine, save that i would dispense with penalties as dont think its a fair way to decide games in gaelic football
No matter what system is in place Dublin and Kerry will dominate, they dominated for years before recent investment in Dublin therefore I don’t see why it wouldn’t have happened anyway. That’s the nature of sport. A few clubs/counties/countries will always be the ‘elite’ and then you’ll have a few second tier level teams. If you look at our own county 3 clubs have 2/3rds of the senior titles. That’s reflective across most sports. I would actually subdivide it into senior, intermediate and junior and do it properly like that but won’t happen
Armaghniac
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Kerry have no particular advantage, except continually having high standards and not letting them slip. Their population is comparable to other places and they are not an especially important centre of business for funding purposes. Dublin is a totally different case, their dominance has greatly increased
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Rufus T Firefly
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The whole debate around 'Why Kerry' frequently raises its head on GAA Forums. A good number of years ago (certainly over ten), I saw a response from Bord na Mona Man, on GAABoard, that I thought was the best I'd seen and I kept it and use it every now and again for info. I regurgitate it again for your perusal.
Off the top of my head the main factors...
Large population (crucially no city)
Competing sports aren't strong
Tradition - which means:
- An expectation of winning
- Good coaching, as the skills and knowledge are widespread and seamlessly passed through generations
- The knowledge of what it requires to win trophies.
A reasonably high income county - Tourism, Fishing etc. Occupations that can be lucrative and not heavily taxed. This reduces emigration and also keeps the rural population healthy.
Rural clubs are more efficient than urban ones in producing county standard players per capita.
In a weak province for many years and now the qualifier system work in Kerry's favour
A healthy club scene that would appear to be less parochial than in other counties.
A county championship - Regional teams taking part in a very competitive structure.
Armaghniac
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However, the population of Kerry, the size of its towns etc is not much different from Mayo or Donegal. They just get more out of it, in the same way as Cross win more in Armagh.
