Ulster Championship 2023

ragingbull

ragingbull

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When you look at Sundays game & the way the league went we shot ourselves in the foot,every team we drew or lost too never got out of 2nd gear
 
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Armaghball

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Peter grimes said:
It has been mentioned that McGeeney did the post match media work. I think that was a telling and correct move.

Some think it’s odd or negligent on him for not doing media work. In general I couldn’t give a monkeys. But Sunday was different and I think he called that right.
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He normally does it after a defeat in fairness
 
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Androim

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Rufus T Firefly said:
It's a very good article and does indeed highlight the very fine lines at play here. I've been mulling over some of these fine lines in my head, and in discussions with others, since the match, although I still cannot bring myself to watch it. That said, I'm not so sure Cahir's conclusion - that Armagh are still in a good place - stands up.

I think he underestimates the crushing blow that Clones last Sunday was for Armagh. That match was the culmination of not just months of training, but I'd argue years of progression from Division 3 football, painful and fruitless Championship campaigns, to get a team that was ready to go toe-to-toe for a major honour. Across that progression, many of our great players of the modern age have been getting older and are now reaching veteran status. Will they get another opportunity like that on Sunday? Maybe; maybe not. I hope I'm wrong, but that felt like one wonderful opportunity that was let slip.

I feel Armagh needed that victory a lot more than Derry did and the defeat itself, and the nature of it, will have dealt a major blow to the team. If they can come back from this and progress to an All Ireland Quarter-final, then they will have performed brilliantly. However it will be a big challenge.
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Fear not! There is not one lily liveried or inconsequential man on that whole squad! I expect that it will take a day or two to get over the disappointment but that they will then shake themselves and come back stronger than ever. This is the same group who I saw in a state of devastation in Lifford last year on the way home from that infamous defeat by Donegal, yet just a few weeks later they were kicking silage out of the Tyronies and others. Keep your hearts up and Onward and Upward!
 
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MadOne86

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JoeH said:
I don't think he was with the team but let's take the story that he was:
How on god's earth did those 40 odd people - players and backroom - sit and listen to him knowing what has happened and by his own statements has not denied it. What sort of men are they? Where's the decency ? How do they look their wives/partners/mother's/sisters in the eye after this?

I for one would not be associated with anyone who has done what he's done never mind he in a changing room listening to him.
The temptation to deal with the issue would simply be too great.

This is why I don't think he was there
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The players would’ve all heard all the stories going around about him for years, yet they still worshiped him.

I hate to say it but when it comes to the GAA there’s a lot of protection for the big names.

I expect him to be managing Corduff along with Banty to weed his way back into the organisation
 
Rufus T Firefly

Rufus T Firefly

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jpowell100 said:
Could be the making of this team hopefully. Like 99 and 2000 were
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Funny, I thought myself about parallels with '99. For those of a certain vintage, they might recall that when we made the breakthrough in Ulster, the three best teams that year - by a country mile - were Donegal, Derry and ourselves. We overcame both across three titanic matches to get to the final against Down. The final itself was simply a lap of honour. A huge moment in the semi-final against Derry though was a late free - I think given against Kieran McKeever - which was of the generous variety and was important in that victory and what followed. We got that wee break that can be so important.

Fast forward to last Sunday and my memory (as I haven't watched it since) was that we closed up the Derry keeper along the end-line in the closing minutes and it looked for the world like over carrying and a free in from 14 yards to win the game. In my opinion, the ref totally bottled it and stopped for a throw ball. Derry ones might say karma, but I mentioned it on the Reservoir Dubs website and many of them agreed with me. They couldn't understand how the ref did not give it. A wee - but hugely important break - that went against us. Hopefully the lads will have the mental resilience to overcome it.
 
Ard Mhacha 13

Ard Mhacha 13

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Rufus T Firefly said:
Funny, I thought myself about parallels with '99. For those of a certain vintage, they might recall that when we made the breakthrough in Ulster, the three best teams that year - by a country mile - were Donegal, Derry and ourselves. We overcame both across three titanic matches to get to the final against Down. The final itself was simply a lap of honour. A huge moment in the semi-final against Derry though was a late free - I think given against Kieran McKeever - which was of the generous variety and was important in that victory and what followed. We got that wee break that can be so important.

Fast forward to last Sunday and my memory (as I haven't watched it since) was that we closed up the Derry keeper along the end-line in the closing minutes and it looked for the world like over carrying and a free in from 14 yards to win the game. In my opinion, the ref totally bottled it and stopped for a throw ball. Derry ones might say karma, but I mentioned it on the Reservoir Dubs website and many of them agreed with me. They couldn't understand how the ref did not give it. A wee - but hugely important break - that went against us. Hopefully the lads will have the mental resilience to overcome it.
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My brother commented on exactly the same incident going home in the car & his opinion was literally your post word for word.
 
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Armaghball

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thehighballinlow said:
And look what happened he was only after running himself into the ground and hadn't the distace..

If we were trying to work a mark why not work it to soupy or rian on the other side of thr field.
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You’d back Grugan to hit that mark every day of the week, but the fact his legs had probably close to gone by then and the tricky wind in Clones didn’t help. Space wasnt exactly a premium inside their 45 the other day so I don’t think we could have afforded to be picky on who we were going to get on it.
 
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Armaghball

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Wide ball said:
The reason he is with the squad is mcgeeney likes the idea of keeping a big squad and keeping them altogether, I also like this idea he has been missing near a year but he will be back
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Proper order imo, a successful squad is about far more than the 26 on the program. Oisin is a superb player and no doubt he’ll give us plenty of big games in years to come.
 
pablo

pablo

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Armaghball said:
You’d back Grugan to hit that mark every day of the week, but the fact his legs had probably close to gone by then and the tricky wind in Clones didn’t help. Space wasnt exactly a premium inside their 45 the other day so I don’t think we could have afforded to be picky on who we were going to get on it.
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Grugan is also refreshingly honest in terms from where he takes a free kick or an awarded mark. He doesn't steal yards on the kick although in this case you wish he would have taken cue from McGuigan. McGuigan's free kick technique always involves a run up that gains about 5 to 8 meters closer to goal. He is not the only one around who does so, but one of the most blatantly obvious
 
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