Ulster Championship 2024

[Wide ball]

I disagree I think when all are fit Duffy, Conor O'Neill, soupy all start and maybe even Nugent

 

[Armaghball]

I disagree I think when all are fit Duffy, Conor O'Neill, soupy all start and maybe even Nugent

who loses out for those boys? Especially Nugent? Inside forwards have all been excellent in the league.

Joe McElroy will definitely start I think- started vs Monaghan last year and had a super league this year.

 

[Wide ball]

who loses out for those boys? Especially Nugent? Inside forwards have all been excellent in the league.

Joe McElroy will definitely start I think- started vs Monaghan last year and had a super league this year.

I'm going by the majority of championship games the last 2 years, Duffy, Conor O'Neill and soupy start way more often than not so does Nugent, I have no problem playing Conaty and McGrane as they have earned it but I feel when it really comes down to it the will be benched.
If we make a final I'd be pretty sure our team will be
Rafferty
Burns
McKay
Forker
C O'Neill
McCabe
OG burns
Crealy
Mackin
Duffy
Grugan
Campbell
Turbitt
Rian
Murnin/Nugent

Not the team I'd go with but the team I feel management will go with, they probably see getting plenty of league minutes into McGrane and Conaty as good progress for them.

Me personally I'd have this team if we meet Derry and all are fit
Rafferty
Morgan/burns
McKay
Mccambridge
C O'Neill
Forker
Ciaran mackin
Jarly og
Mcpartlan
Duffy
Rian
Campbell
Turbitt
Oisin/murnin
Grugan

Won't happen but would like to see it

 

[The Dark Knight]

For me
Guaranteed staters are

Aaron McKay
Peter McGrane
Greg McCabe
Aidan Forker
Ciaran Mackin
Ben Crealey
Rory Grugan
Rian O’Neill
Andrew Murnin
Oisin Conaty

For me the other 5 are up for grabs

Blaine Hughes / Ethan Rafferty
Barry McCambridge / James Morgan
Jarlath Og Burns / Joe McElroy
Stefan Campbell / Conor O’Neill
Conor Turbitt / Oisin O’Neill

Plus
Maybe

…

Jason Duffy
Ross McQuillian
Aidan Nugent
Cian McConville
Shane McPartlan
Niall Grimley
Paddy Burns
Conaire Mackin

We can bring Anglo Celt back

#ArdMhachaAbu

 

[Armaghball]

For me
Guaranteed staters are

Aaron McKay
Greg McCabe
Aidan Forker
Ciaran Mackin
Ben Crealey
Rory Grugan
Rian O’Neill
Rory Grugan
Andrew Murnin
Oisin Conaty

For me the other 5 are up for grabs

Blaine Hughes / Ethan Rafferty
Peter McGrane / Barry McCambridge
Jarlath Og Burns / Joe McElroy
Stefan Campbell / Conor O’Neill
Conor Turbitt / Oisin O’Neill

Blaine over Rafferty, not even a question imo, Blaine hasn’t put a foot wrong and Rafferty has played 0 minutes all year.

McGrane and McCambridge probably 50/50, McCambridge a better man marker and would want him for McGuigan if we met Derry down the line if we met, McGrane deserves his place for now though imo.

McElroy over Burns all day for me.

Campbell vs O’Neill, 2 different players and tbh would like to see both start.

O’Neill over Turbo for me.

Duffy and Paddy Burns probably in contention as well.

 

[The Dark Knight]

Blaine over Rafferty, not even a question imo, Blaine hasn’t put a foot wrong and Rafferty has played 0 minutes all year.

McGrane and McCambridge probably 50/50, McCambridge a better man marker and would want him for McGuigan if we met Derry down the line if we met, McGrane deserves his place for now though imo.

McElroy over Burns all day for me.

Campbell vs O’Neill, 2 different players and tbh would like to see both start.

O’Neill over Turbo for me.

The depth is the headache though
We don’t see the training only the games

But yep for sure
If we want to prevail and go for
The 2 oneill brothers need to start and build momentum

Rian has a monumental year ahead and can show Ireland he can be the best against Clifford / Glass / McGuigan / Fenton / Con
But McGeeney
Needs to let me him achieve that

 

[Armaghball]

The depth is the headache though
We don’t see the training only the games

But yep for sure
If we want to prevail and go for
The 2 oneill brothers need to start and build momentum

Rian has a monumental year ahead and can show Ireland he can be the best against Clifford / Glass / McGuigan / Fenton / Con
But McGeeney
Needs to let me him achieve that

Been saying it for a few years now he has that ability and I don’t doubt that for a second. Up to him to show it though- bar the Ulster final and the point against Monaghan he had a poor year last year. I hope we’ll see him with a point to prove this year- and if the brother is playing it’ll only help more I think.

 

[JoeH]

The depth is the headache though
We don’t see the training only the games

But yep for sure
If we want to prevail and go for
The 2 oneill brothers need to start and build momentum

Rian has a monumental year ahead and can show Ireland he can be the best against Clifford / Glass / McGuigan / Fenton / Con
But McGeeney
Needs to let me him achieve that

Five key words there ' we don't see the training'

Players can't be picked on reputation - should be picked on form.
Strength in depth backs this up.

And it's not up to any manager/ selectors to let a player achieve - the player must force this.

 

[niall1980]

Blaine over Rafferty, not even a question imo, Blaine hasn’t put a foot wrong and Rafferty has played 0 minutes all year.

McGrane and McCambridge probably 50/50, McCambridge a better man marker and would want him for McGuigan if we met Derry down the line if we met, McGrane deserves his place for now though imo.

McElroy over Burns all day for me.

Campbell vs O’Neill, 2 different players and tbh would like to see both start.

O’Neill over Turbo for me.

Duffy and Paddy Burns probably in contention as well.

exactly. Bringing Beggan straight back in didnt exactly work for monaghan at the weeking

 

[MrMaguire2002]

Think if everyone is 100% fit and in top form nailed on starters and everyone would probably agree are Forker, Grugan, Murnin and Rian. Oisin O’Neill on top form starts as well. Soupy either starting or held as an impact sub. After that theres probably discussions to be had depending on your preference.

My dream team would probably be

Blaine

Morgan
McKay
Forker

C O’Neill
McCabe
Mackin

Grimley
O’Neill

Soupy
Grugan
Duffy

Murnin
O’Neill
Conaty

Then
Burns
McGrane
McCambridge
McQuillan
McPartlan
Crealey
McElroy
Nugent
Turbitt

Could all very easily start there as well. (You could probably ask me again tomorrow and a few of those boys would start). Thats not a prediction team or even a team I’d like to see start vs Fermanagh, but just what I think is our strongest 15

Wouldn't differ too much from that team.

The first names on the team in the ideal scenario ( if everyone was fully fit) for me would be;

A. Forker
A. McKay
G. McCabe
O. O'Neill
R. O'Neill
J. Duffy
A. Murnin
C. Turbitt

If Morgan was fully fit he'd make it 9.

Armagh's strongest 15 for me would be;

1. B. Hughes

2. P. Burns / J. Morgan
3. A. McKay
4. A. Forker

5. C. Mackin
6. G. McCabe
7. J. Og Burns/ R. McQuillan

8. B. Crealy
9. O. O'Neill

10. J. Duffy
11. R. Grugan
12. C. O'Neill

13. C. Turbitt/ O. Conaty
14. A Murnin
15. R. O'Neill

Joe McElroy probably deserves to start and Pete McGrane has been good. Harsh to leave both out - but if everyone was fit I'd be looking at the above 15 (18).

We need to be getting closer to this against Fermanagh.

Bringing main men in against Derry with little football won't cut it.

The 15 that started against Donegal wouldn't cut it against Derry either.

We can definitely beat Derry with our main players but they need to have serious game time. There's the worry also that Fermanagh and Down/Antrim can only do so much in preparing us for a battle with Derry.

We shouldn't be fully tested before an Ulster Final. But stranger things have happened.

 

[GAAGael]

exactly. Bringing Beggan straight back in didnt exactly work for monaghan at the weeking

He got player of the match………

 

[Pat Cully]

Wouldn't differ too much from that team.

The first names on the team in the ideal scenario ( if everyone was fully fit) for me would be;

A. Forker
A. McKay
G. McCabe
O. O'Neill
R. O'Neill
J. Duffy
A. Murnin
C. Turbitt

If Morgan was fully fit he'd make it 9.

Armagh's strongest 15 for me would be;

1. B. Hughes

2. P. Burns / J. Morgan
3. A. McKay
4. A. Forker

5. C. Mackin
6. G. McCabe
7. J. Og Burns/ R. McQuillan

8. B. Crealy
9. O. O'Neill

10. J. Duffy
11. R. Grugan
12. C. O'Neill

13. C. Turbitt/ O. Conaty
14. A Murnin
15. R. O'Neill

Joe McElroy probably deserves to start and Pete McGrane has been good. Harsh to leave both out - but if everyone was fit I'd be looking at the above 15 (18).

We need to be getting closer to this against Fermanagh.

Bringing main men in against Derry with little football won't cut it.

The 15 that started against Donegal wouldn't cut it against Derry either.

We can definitely beat Derry with our main players but they need to have serious game time. There's the worry also that Fermanagh and Down/Antrim can only do so much in preparing us for a battle with Derry.

We shouldn't be fully tested before an Ulster Final. But stranger things have happened.

Good strong team but I’d have mcpartlan instead of crealey

 

[niall1980]

He got player of the match………

from Philly, yeah. He shouldnt have

 

[GAAGael]

from Philly, yeah. He shouldnt have

You realise one player is not soley responsible for a loss/win? I trust Philly's judgement more than your own. Beggan is a class act - one of the best GAA goalkeepers ever and would be a shoe in on any team in the country at the moment.

 

[ShiftYa]

You realise one player is not soley responsible for a loss/win? I trust Philly's judgement more than your own. Beggan is a class act - one of the best GAA goalkeepers ever and would be a shoe in on any team in the country at the moment.

Only back one game and he’s let past more goals than Blaine has all year

 

[armaghtimmy]

Now now boys- Beggan wasnt the losing of the game. Kicked 3 points including a nice one from play. He had a good game.
He also shouldn't have got motm over Lynch who hit 1-9, Stevie Wonder could see that!

 

[GAAGael]

Only back one game and he’s let past more goals than Blaine has all year

Tell me you're deluded, without telling me you're deluded....... those 14 other players have no responsibility for goals conceded Talking about dropping blaine for ethan, Beggan is lightyears ahead of both. How about some proper stats of shots faced v goals conceded? No, it's easier to take a lazy swipe.

 

[stevie_06]

Now now boys- Beggan wasnt the losing of the game. Kicked 3 points including a nice one from play. He had a good game.
He also shouldn't have got motm over Lynch who hit 1-9, Stevie Wonder could see that!

Agreed. Although I think Lynch got the goal after it had been awarded to Beggan.

 

[ragingbull]

U20 game in Ballybofey tonight is off,brilliant decision to call it off 40 mins before throw in

 

[stevie_06]

Next two games will be a waste of time, win them pulling up and then Wel be beat in prob a hard luck story again in final tho this year think Derry have improved massively so could hammer us! The boys most yous picking in ur 15s wouldn’t get near the Derry squad let alone play! Living in cloud cuckoo land the lot of yous.
We actually have a very good squad but we’ve a management team who refuse to pick the best players and who are probably one the most defensive minded management teams in the game! The games moved on as showed by Derry and Dublin in the league final. If ur not brave ur going nowhere!!

Very sad but we deserve it having these boys still in charge!
To dare to be great you have to be brave. We won’t and never have been!
The league final confirmed all that needed to be. It took too we were 4/5 down to really start pressing the kickout and get our better players on the field. We went ahead and what was the first thing we did???? Sat back lol

The definition of insanity??? Doing the same thing over and over again!
We’ve been doing the same things for years!

Most people's 15 is pretty similar to the 15 you named earlier in the thread. With the exception of McQuillan and Grimley most other posters have the same names in their team.

So majority of teams named are similar to yours but you say they wouldn't get into the Derry squad. But you still think we have a very good squad. Bit of a contradiction there surely.

The next two games are a waste time so we will just tell Fermanagh and Antrim/Down we will get a bye into the final.

I agree we should be winning both games without entering top gear. But that is because we are superior team to them so what are we meant to do. Dublin and Kerry do the same most years and doesn't have a detrimental effect on them.

P.S check the dictionary that is not the definition of insanity