ULSTER FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP 2K22

Peter grimes

Well-Known Member
Embarrassing. Worse Championship match under Gezzer.
Time to go......
On the mouth of the back door qualifiers it is clearly NOT the time to switch the manager.

But when the time comes to have that debate nobody will be referring to today’s game as a reason for him to stay and there will be an arsenal of ammunition for those seeking to remove him.

Today was unbelievably disappointing and whilst players made mistakes and some individuals had off days it would be very difficult to evade the conclusion that tactically a lot of things were got very wrong. It was a managerial catastrophe.

Well played Rory Grugan and Aaron McKay
 

Geezersleftfoot

Active Member
On the mouth of the back door qualifiers it is clearly NOT the time to switch the manager.

But when the time comes to have that debate nobody will be referring to today’s game as a reason for him to stay and there will be an arsenal of ammunition for those seeking to remove him.

Today was unbelievably disappointing and whilst players made mistakes and some individuals had off days it would be very difficult to evade the conclusion that tactically a lot of things were got very wrong. It was a managerial catastrophe.

Well played Rory Grugan and Aaron McKay
Well said. I’d add Morgan to that. He had a good game. McCabe was decent. The rest had off days.
 
Time is up geezer. Take your stupid keeper and team decisions with you.
What does hall actually do? Please, someone tell me. Rian believing his own hype.

Embarrassing once again from an inept management team
 

John37

New Member
Blaming the management is a cop out .. the players aren’t good enough. Winning a couple of League games in January and February is one thing but we don’t have the pace or the quality in the side to win an Ulster title.
 

ShiftYa

Well-Known Member
Blaming the management is a cop out .. the players aren’t good enough. Winning a couple of League games in January and February is one thing but we don’t have the pace or the quality in the side to win an Ulster title.
Do you think management is getting the best out of the talent available?
 
Blaming the management is a cop out .. the players aren’t good enough. Winning a couple of League games in January and February is one thing but we don’t have the pace or the quality in the side to win an Ulster title.

It's geezer to makes the decision to start rafferty in nets and slows everything down. Its geezer who picks hall and keeps him on for ages.

How much longer do you want to give him?
 

Kem

Active Member
Disappointing day for Armagh but posters calling for management changes need to get real. By and large we had the best club players available in Ballybofey today. Where is a new manager going to get better? The only formula for judging a manager is whether the sum of the parts are better or worse than the individual parts. No disrespect to our players but McGeeney has managed to keep a squad of ordinary players in division one. Peter Keane's failure in Kerry was to do the opposite, fail with a panel of top class players. McGeeney has overachieved and has cut a stick to beat his own back with. With a reasonable draw we could make a go of it this year but talk of winning All-Irelands is fanciful.
 

POINTMAN

Well-Known Member
Very disappointing performance - only a few players, mostly in defence, plus Grugan - come out with much credit. Our midfielders were very poor and our inability to win our kick outs was killing us. Despite that, if the 'goal' at the beginning of the 2nd half had been allowed to stand - we were back in the game with some momentum.
I am not a fan of this mamagement team- no one else would have lasted this long with such a poor record in the championship - but now is nor the time to change management. Definitely at the end of the year, but not know - hopefully we get a good run in the back door but that will be more difficult given that the poorer teams are in the Tailteann Cup.

Tactics wise we do not have it on the line - but many players either under performed today or are not quite top inter County level.
 

ShiftYa

Well-Known Member
Yes clearly management has no impact on how a team does:mad:, that’s why Dublin couldn’t sustain dominance after Jim Galvin left, Tyrone won Sam under new management in their second year, look at the difference Mickey Harte is making in Louth ffs. Look at Man Utd after Fergie retired and tell me Management isn’t a major factor in sport. I can’t think of any Manager in the GAA intercounty or club that has underachieved for so long and still kept his job. Time for something different, somebody else deserves a chance to do better.
 

M18

Active Member
Had forgotten how toxic it could get here after a loss. I will be taking few days off to avoid the worst of it
I would say that winning in Donegal was always a tall order. Experienced team in a place they rarely loss
Maybe home advantage in championship should be stopped and bring these to neutral venues ?
I was disappointed watching today knowing this team could play better and at times we saw that. Kickouts both ways were disappointing though Donegal maybe one of most dominate around middle and really pushed up and there keeper has massive kick especially with wind so have to protect that too
As some more level headed posters have said it was a off day for some but thought some did well
Forker on muphy
McKay and Morgan
Jemar I thought kept McHugh quite enough
And mccabe was really good in first half as a warrior
Rory grugan stood up and will again
thr injuries and lack of form around midfield is an issue and ultimately hurt us
In the back door now so it is a loser game and then a provincial loser for a quarter final
By no means a given but not a disaster option
You will have two of louth Kildare Dublin Meath abd Maybe Limerick and cork in the draw

Lessons learned today and hopefully a home game next to fill AG
Armagh Abu
 

M18

Active Member
Was it not a mark after Rian caught ball from throw in? If that goes in it’s a much different game
It’s and buts
 

Berfaboy77

Active Member
Very disappointing today, I genuinely went up today thinking we could come out with a win. Donegal bosses the game from start to finish, completely dominated mid field and gobbled all out kick outs. We were so slow in our build up, allowed a physically superior Donegal to setup up defensively. Too many of our main players had an off day.

I can understand people frustrations with out tactics, allowing them free short kick outs was criminal, when we pushed up late in second half we turned them over several times. Connaire Mackin in MF didn’t work, Duffy & Hall should not be starting. I thought Grugan, and the defence tried hard. Up front we were brutal. Why bring in Donaghy if we are going to play slow build up drills, so predictable. Micheal Murphy was superb today.
 

gael_force_orchard

Well-Known Member
That was disheartening today. I dont think we got the line up right from the off. And we certainly didn't get the tactics right either. We should not have been standing off every Donegal kick from the get go. Fair enough after a few if they beat the press, but we didnt make them beat a press. Second half we allowed them countless short outs as we didn't press fully or drop off. So that's on management.

Secondly, when we did lose possession, we were found out of position and on a number of number of occasions didnt even bother to track or try and track back. Id like to see it again though for their goal, two of our starting half forwards were on the edge of the D and never tracked a runner, they stood static. That is inexcusable, especially as one of them was anonymous for the entire time he was on the pitch. That angered me.

Our players will have any keeper hung drawn and quartered. No movement, no effort to move, no nous on giving an option. Rafferty lost 8 kick outs in that first half. He lost them because no one moved or made a run and its not as if the players didn't realise Donegal would push up.

Shot selection was poor at times. Tackling at times cost us as well. Forget the goal we should have had or a fee soft frees they got, they dropped more sjots short and left more scores behind them.

There is talent in that squad but not quite at the level we think it is. It was showed up by poor tactics. Mackin was a huge miss and I also believe that Rowland was a miss. Mc cabe has to play at corner back and Rowland at chb, we were open today up the middle. We were not open during the league as Mackin and Rowland understood danger and how to position themselves. Morgan ran down blind alleys and I just don't think he is a county level footballer.

One player on that team I just do not rate at all and I dont believe should ever be starting or in the squad. Won't name names.

Management will change later in the summer but now is not the time. I think we have players who need to lose the fear of championship football and need better direction and tactics. We will see more out of this team next year I believe. Today is dissappointing yes, but see how we go in the back door. We may still make a quarter final and learn a bit yet. But we will at some point need more on the line to drive this team or what is left of it on, as a few lads are not getting any younger.
 

PatMustard

Well-Known Member
Some are forgetting we got probably the toughest draw possible in Ulster. Donegal very rarely lose in Ballybofey, and a lot of those lads are experienced players, winning numerous Ulster’s.

A lot of our lads didn’t perform. It happens. Let’s move on. We’re still in the championship.

The back door, away from the spotlight, might suit us better. Who knows where it might take us?
 
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