All Ireland Qualifiers

Armagh have reached the last 8 in The All Ireland series would you rather we play in

  • The Super 8 format

    Votes: 9 22.5%

  • Knock out Quarter Final

    Votes: 31 77.5%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
Ard Mhacha 13

Ard Mhacha 13

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Patrick-Armagh said:
I despise Tyrone with every fibre of my being. I loathe them. I absolutely hate them. It's all based on that team from the 2000's and the amount of rats that they had playing for them. Phillip Jordan got Marsden sent off is one of the worse things I've seen in sport (as well as Kelly's gouge on Comer unfortunately). My uncle used to do a good bit of work with Jordan and after that incident he didn't do as much! Funny thing is that I don't find this current Tyrone team as objectionable on a player by player basis. Michael McKiernan is a mouth piece. Darren McCurry is up himself. I can't think of too many more that I would hate as much as many members of the 2000's team. But such was my hate for that team, that Tyrone could have a team of Collie Holmes', guys who are on the panel, are totally anonymous and you have no real opinion on and I would still hate them.

I can't stand Down and not so much because they are our traditional rivals but because everyone is always banging on about 'Down football', and how good they used to be. I guess it would be similar to the way people talk about the Armagh team from the 2000's, but Down's time was even longer ago. They somehow fluked their way to an All Ireland Final in 2010 and it's gave people more ammo to talk about the greatness of Down football. Delighted to see them doing so badly.

I wouldn't be a fan of Donegal either. I hate their shirts, can't stand the Donegal accent, get bored of people talking about going there on their holidays (I've been twice - once as a baby and then one time when I was in Fermanagh and drove into Pettigo before realising I had made a wrong turn, so turned around and drove back into Fermanagh). I think their style of football is awful and think that Michael Murphy is one of the biggest yaps in the game - based on the rough attention he's got over the years it's hardly surprising in fairness.

Laois would be our boggy team. Honestly we could draw them in the qualifiers with us riding high in Division 1 and them stuttering along in Division 4 and they would still have a good chance of beating us. They are one of those teams that just pull you down to their level. Their fans are mouthpieces as well.

There's no one else that bothers me too much. I used not to like Dublin when I was a teenager but I moved past that. Kerry are cynical and don't get called on it. Antrim bug me because they should be better but aren't and can't get their house in order.
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THIS, THIS, 100 TIMES THIS :mad::mad::mad:(which I know will come as a huge shock to all the regular posters ;))
 
pablo

pablo

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Ard Mhacha 13 said:
THIS, THIS, 100 TIMES THIS :mad::mad::mad:(which I know will come as a huge shock to all the regular posters ;))
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You know, reading between the lines of your posts I did get the impression you were not a number 1 fan of Tyronieworld.
Question to all, and I ask as nobody mentioned it in their list of grudges-but is it only me that found the whole covid back story last year involving Tyrone a bit fishy? Something didn't sit right about all that
 
Ard Mhacha 13

Ard Mhacha 13

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pablo said:
You know, reading between the lines of your posts I did get the impression you were not a number 1 fan of Tyronieworld.
Question to all, and I ask as nobody mentioned it in their list of grudges-but is it only me that found the whole covid back story last year involving Tyrone a bit fishy? Something didn't sit right about all that
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It is very difficult for me to try & disguise my dislike of that lot so I don't :D
Nope definitely not just you, I wanted to see physical evidence of those positive covid tests.
 
PatMustard

PatMustard

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pablo said:
You know, reading between the lines of your posts I did get the impression you were not a number 1 fan of Tyronieworld.
Question to all, and I ask as nobody mentioned it in their list of grudges-but is it only me that found the whole covid back story last year involving Tyrone a bit fishy? Something didn't sit right about all that
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It was more fishy than Michael Fish’s fish tank in his Fish & Chip shop in Fishguard.

But let’s face it, if three or four of the Kerry players like the Clifford’s or Seán O’Shea came down with the virus next week, Kerry would probably try something similar.

You have to ask what was the testing procedure, who carried them out, and who verified them? If there was inadequacies in that, and not tight enough testing, then Tyrone could take advantage. And they more than likely did.

I’ve no doubt some of their players were affected. How many, we probably will never know. How badly affected, who know. Were some players injured at the same time, but thrown onto the covid bus? Probably.

They knew the GAA wouldn’t give Kerry a bye. There was a few million quid to be made. And they probably couldn’t chuck Tyrone out, because they probably didn’t have proof. And that’s the fault of the GAA. Tighter measures should have been in place. Have they been tightened up since? Probably not.


So, in conclusion... they’re a bunch of cheating backstards!!
 
Ard Mhacha 13

Ard Mhacha 13

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PatMustard said:
It was more fishy than Michael Fish’s fish tank in his Fish & Chip shop in Fishguard.

But let’s face it, if three or four of the Kerry players like the Clifford’s or Seán O’Shea came down with the virus next week, Kerry would probably try something similar.

You have to ask what was the testing procedure, who carried them out, and who verified them? If there was inadequacies in that, and not tight enough testing, then Tyrone could take advantage. And they more than likely did.

I’ve no doubt some of their players were affected. How many, we probably will never know. How badly affected, who know. Were some players injured at the same time, but thrown onto the covid bus? Probably.

They knew the GAA wouldn’t give Kerry a bye. There was a few million quid to be made. And they probably couldn’t chuck Tyrone out, because they probably didn’t have proof. And that’s the fault of the GAA. Tighter measures should have been in place. Have they been tightened up since? Probably not.


So, in conclusion... they’re a bunch of cheating backstards!!
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Some things never change :mad:
 
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Patrick-Armagh

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PatMustard said:
It was more fishy than Michael Fish’s fish tank in his Fish & Chip shop in Fishguard.

But let’s face it, if three or four of the Kerry players like the Clifford’s or Seán O’Shea came down with the virus next week, Kerry would probably try something similar.

You have to ask what was the testing procedure, who carried them out, and who verified them? If there was inadequacies in that, and not tight enough testing, then Tyrone could take advantage. And they more than likely did.

I’ve no doubt some of their players were affected. How many, we probably will never know. How badly affected, who know. Were some players injured at the same time, but thrown onto the covid bus? Probably.

They knew the GAA wouldn’t give Kerry a bye. There was a few million quid to be made. And they probably couldn’t chuck Tyrone out, because they probably didn’t have proof. And that’s the fault of the GAA. Tighter measures should have been in place. Have they been tightened up since? Probably not.


So, in conclusion... they’re a bunch of cheating backstards!!
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I'm torn on this one. If they all had it, as bad as they said they had it, to then show absolutely no sign of an illness that affects the respiratory system and causes severe fatigue, is some recovery from the entire squad, that borders on the comical. Only Tyrone would have the absolute brass neck to do this and then act like they are the victims in all of it. On the other hand, if they had pulled a fast one, you're relying on too many people to never speak about it outside of the squad. If so many had it, then they would have been close contacts with family and friends, who would have had to have been informed. So then you're hoping that your Aunty Patricia does spill the beans down the shop, that in fact Matty Donnelly didn't have Covid. We'll never know the full extent of it tbh. Either way, Kerry should have beaten them.
 
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Orchard Apples

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I don't like Tyrone either and yes the whole thing is maybe a bit fishy but... it did annoy me that some people - including high profile visible people (like spillane) - voiced their distrust of Tyrone on this, but they would never had mistrusted the likes of mayo, kerry etc on such a thing.
 
William Of Orange

William Of Orange

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pablo said:
You know, reading between the lines of your posts I did get the impression you were not a number 1 fan of Tyronieworld.
Question to all, and I ask as nobody mentioned it in their list of grudges-but is it only me that found the whole covid back story last year involving Tyrone a bit fishy? Something didn't sit right about all that
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It was excellent management of the situation
 
pablo

pablo

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Patrick-Armagh said:
I'm torn on this one. If they all had it, as bad as they said they had it, to then show absolutely no sign of an illness that affects the respiratory system and causes severe fatigue, is some recovery from the entire squad, that borders on the comical. Only Tyrone would have the absolute brass neck to do this and then act like they are the victims in all of it. On the other hand, if they had pulled a fast one, you're relying on too many people to never speak about it outside of the squad. If so many had it, then they would have been close contacts with family and friends, who would have had to have been informed. So then you're hoping that your Aunty Patricia does spill the beans down the shop, that in fact Matty Donnelly didn't have Covid. We'll never know the full extent of it tbh. Either way, Kerry should have beaten them.
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That's my feeling also. I know from recent personal experience and from my line of work, how quickly this virus can spread. Very difficult to contain once it gets established within a close group. There is also range in how well people recover post infection; many back on their feet close to 100% within a few days, but a significant number can struggle for a week or two to get energy levels to normal. I'm an auld fella-but I do a fair bit of running and would consider myself to be in generally good condition. I caught covid a few weeks back, felt unwell for about two days but after that was ok-no real problems and, eventually tested negative around day 8. But since then I have been really, really struggling completing even the most basic maintenance run. My sister who is a marathon runner caught covid at same time, recovered fairly quickly but tells me the same story, for the past week or she has found she has had to start back at a very basic level to try and get going again.
Apologies for long winded nature of this. My point is that Tyrone made a song and dance about how Covid had devastated their squad-hospitalizations were mentioned but no real actual detail provided., other than large numbers of the team were effected. I know these guys are elite athletes-but with the scale infection eluded to by management, I can't get my head around that after an extra week-they were all flying fit against Kerry, outlasting them through extra time.
Just didn't seem right and I didn't and still don't buy it. Methinks it was a case at the time they were hoping to have a full squad back from particular injuries (e.g. McShane) and they played the covid card.
 
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Patrick-Armagh

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pablo said:
That's my feeling also. I know from recent personal experience and from my line of work, how quickly this virus can spread. Very difficult to contain once it gets established within a close group. There is also range in how well people recover post infection; many back on their feet close to 100% within a few days, but a significant number can struggle for a week or two to get energy levels to normal. I'm an auld fella-but I do a fair bit of running and would consider myself to be in generally good condition. I caught covid a few weeks back, felt unwell for about two days but after that was ok-no real problems and, eventually tested negative around day 8. But since then I have been really, really struggling completing even the most basic maintenance run. My sister who is a marathon runner caught covid at same time, recovered fairly quickly but tells me the same story, for the past week or she has found she has had to start back at a very basic level to try and get going again.
Apologies for long winded nature of this. My point is that Tyrone made a song and dance about how Covid had devastated their squad-hospitalizations were mentioned but no real actual detail provided., other than large numbers of the team were effected. I know these guys are elite athletes-but with the scale infection eluded to by management, I can't get my head around that after an extra week-they were all flying fit against Kerry, outlasting them through extra time.
Just didn't seem right and I didn't and still don't buy it. Methinks it was a case at the time they were hoping to have a full squad back from particular injuries (e.g. McShane) and they played the covid card.
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Your point about wanting injuries to clear up is exactly what I thought at the time and still think played a massive part in it. But I'm also torn by the fact that if they didn't have this mass Covid outbreak, then you are relying on such a wider circle of people not to let the cat out of the bag. Because when news broke about Tyrone not being able to play the game because of this outbreak, then all the family members of the entire playing panel, management and support team would then be asking "Who has it? Do you have it? Do I have it? Do we need to isolate? Do we need to get tested? Oh Jesus, I was with my elderly parents yesterday, have I given it to them? What about the kids going to school yesterday? Do we need to get in touch with all the people we've seen recently and let them know?"

There's so many ways that could play out with the people in the entire Tyrone set up, with how they answered that to the ones at home, ranging from "yeah it's actually not that bad, but say nothing", "we're just trying to get the game postponed to get players back, but say nothing" or just playing it down "awk it should be grand, we've tested in camp and most of us are negative, don't worry about it." The Tyrone management team could have sworn people to absolute silence and to tell your families it's all being handled in house and not to worry.

I just feel that you're requiring on a massive amount of people not in the group not to say anything. But also, they are so brazen, that after the game has been postponed, what are you going to do about it? What can be done? They could have just said we're doing this, we'll ride out the storm for a few weeks and after it's all over, we just won't speak about it again and if anyone does try to pin something on us, we'll just say it's sour grapes and know that we have people from Tyrone on Sky and RTE who will stick up for us.

Ultimately I think it's a mix of both. A few players probably did have Covid, most squads did. I think they just milked it for all it was worth and Tyrone have the gal to go ahead with it, such is their nature.
 
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