Exactly where is the photos and videos of players embracing and swapping jerseys after the game.
All Ireland Qualifiers
- Thread starter William Of Orange
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Not sure the indiscipline cost us. Galway for the majority were the better side.
Apart from the incident at the end of full time I don't think we showed any indiscipline. The Rafferty and Morgan incidents I believe were both started by Galway making the first contact
The McGabe red card I think was an honest attempt at a shoulder and nothing malicious in it.
A lot of hype around the full time incident. But I don't think it was a dirty match at all. Thought it was played hard but fair.
I have seen a hell of a lot worse in the early 2000s in games against Tyrone.
But I accept it is a different age and more media focus on incidents these days
Savo01
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https://www.independent.ie/sport/ga...t-of-the-vitriol-towards-armagh-41799651.html
This is behind the paywall. Has anyone got the text or did they read it perchance?
This is behind the paywall. Has anyone got the text or did they read it perchance?
Big Jim
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There are loads of them PC but this is just the first I came on with a quick search
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Yes but RTÉ didn’t zoom in on it… didn’t spend 10 or 15 minutes talking about it. Blood is still boiling lol
Armaghball
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Didn’t see your man actually connect with TK in any of the videos I saw but you could see a swing and the camera panned away. Mustn’t have caught him too well though because straight after that fella was on the ground wrestling with Turbitt and TK was on his feet.
I don’t think too many would complain if TK was banned and no one else- I don’t blame the Galway lad for thumping him- I’m sure most would do the same in that situation although obviously by the letter of the law he’s in the wrong.
Big Jim
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Maybe it's because I've had other issues to deal with I've had to move on quicker, but I can't say I'm over it. Let's be honest, if RTE etc. were to show the positive scenes after the game it would fly completely in the face of their "thugs" narrative. Galway players proudly swapped jerseys with armagh players and several actively went looking for them which can be seen in many of the social media videos. There's also a cracker of the big screen showing a great view of this happening. Just can't find the damn thing. I'd love to get it viral
Big Jim
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Oh he did connect 3 times and connect well. TK's head went well back so must have a strong chin. Sadly saying the lad can't be blamed is condoning the behaviour and then you'd have t say TK was also only reacting to the situation too. Then all the others that came in were also only reacting so hey can't be blamed.
Sorry to say I will be complaining if TK is the only one banned. Maybe did look really bad and as I said before it's unacceptable, but then wrapping your arm around someones throat and potentially choking them is in the same category. That has to be stamped out too.
Peter grimes
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Haven’t read the thread in a few days. I saw a couple of contributions that to be honest put me off reading any further.
Some thoughts that have been swirling around as I have been driving.
Firstly petrol is bloody expensive.
Secondly the brawl looks bad. I concur with the general idea that steps need to be taken to reduce the chances of a brawl AND the penalty for joining in needs to be stiffer and needs to stick. Under the current rules very few players will be punished as few crossed the current line. Would expect the red cards to be rescinded but one or 2 others to be in trouble.
A the top of that list is obviously TK. A big punishment should be around the corner and the GAA will sooner or later have to admit that they cannot continue to be bound by previous inadequate punishments.
No point in getting involved in personal attacks on TK, he will be hurting. But there also isn’t much point in calling others thugs either. If we call someone who throws a punch (which I condone) in immediate response to an eye gouge a thug what term do we use for the eye gouger? That’s rhetorical. I am not calling for name calling against TK.
On the game I think Galway were the better side for almost all of the game. We showed great fight to hang in at the end of normal time but it was fight and intensity that was lacking for a big chunk of the game. We have a great style of play. When we exert ourselves physically and get on the ball we have the players and game plan to punish the opponent. But when intensity levels drop we struggle. No different to anyone else.
Football is opening up a little. Derry will be the most extreme exception. Our style of football is more suited than it would have been a few years ago. But we still have loads to work on. Kick out troubles always need worked on. Tactical switches during games would still concern me but that really hasn’t been an issue in recent games, even in defeat.
Some thoughts that have been swirling around as I have been driving.
Firstly petrol is bloody expensive.
Secondly the brawl looks bad. I concur with the general idea that steps need to be taken to reduce the chances of a brawl AND the penalty for joining in needs to be stiffer and needs to stick. Under the current rules very few players will be punished as few crossed the current line. Would expect the red cards to be rescinded but one or 2 others to be in trouble.
A the top of that list is obviously TK. A big punishment should be around the corner and the GAA will sooner or later have to admit that they cannot continue to be bound by previous inadequate punishments.
No point in getting involved in personal attacks on TK, he will be hurting. But there also isn’t much point in calling others thugs either. If we call someone who throws a punch (which I condone) in immediate response to an eye gouge a thug what term do we use for the eye gouger? That’s rhetorical. I am not calling for name calling against TK.
On the game I think Galway were the better side for almost all of the game. We showed great fight to hang in at the end of normal time but it was fight and intensity that was lacking for a big chunk of the game. We have a great style of play. When we exert ourselves physically and get on the ball we have the players and game plan to punish the opponent. But when intensity levels drop we struggle. No different to anyone else.
Football is opening up a little. Derry will be the most extreme exception. Our style of football is more suited than it would have been a few years ago. But we still have loads to work on. Kick out troubles always need worked on. Tactical switches during games would still concern me but that really hasn’t been an issue in recent games, even in defeat.
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Orchard Apples
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I see what you are saying but tk deserved the punches he got. The lad who got gouged didn't deserve it.
Big Jim
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Sorry but I'm going to disagree with anyone deserving punches. That only leads to further retaliation. Then that deserves a retaliation if you see where I'm going. I guess it does back to what almost everyone else is saying. Let those tasked with resolving issues do that. Taking the law into your own hands and handing out the punishment isn't an answer. If it is, then the aggrieved can always say they've been punished. We have to remember that punching someone in the face (or back of the head as was the case here and in another incident during the stupidity) can lead to a fatality. Don't take my word for it. Look it up. A neighbour of ours lost a son in a so called "one punch" attack.. Like I said, reactions have consequences!
Armaghball
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Completely agree with what you’re saying and know of plenty of horror stories of lads getting badly hurt by one wrong punch, but if you were in that situation and could keep a calm head then fair play because I’d have definitely taken a swing at someone if they eye gouged my teammate.
The lad who did swing at him probably will be banned and can’t really have any complaints. Let’s leave it at that.
Haven’t really watched enough of the footage back to pick out anyone else doing much wrong, but we’ll see within a few days who gets what
Big Jim
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I added a laughing emoji at that because the first bit did make me laugh. I'd have tried to knock the sheeeee-ite out of him and then got hospitalised for about a month being a big drip!!
Armaghball
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You must be a do what I say not what I do kind of a fella!I added a laughing emoji at that because the first bit did make me laugh. I'd have tried to knock the sheeeee-ite out of him and then got hospitalised for about a month being a big drip!!
Big Jim
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I know not of what you meanYou must be a do what I say not what I do kind of a fella!
Now get stuck in!! I'm right behind you.
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Mickey Gormley
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It is good they are getting cash but surely it defeats the purpose as this was all done to mean that players play more club football... Is it a coincidence that the GAA president was from USA and could potentially be looking to strengthen it? Some of the money quoted isnt right its potentially a method of becoming a professional player. (Which I dont necessarily disagree with by the way)
Orchard Apples
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I get ya, yes of course punching is a dangerous act and is against the 'rules' and should be punished as such. But in this case I think we can all see where the punch came from and can imagine why someone would react like that. You're right, those in charge will decide tk's punishment...judging by the media and social media frenzy no punishment will be enough for him
PatMustard
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Perhaps they were, but not on the scoreboard.
I’ve been hearing this since Sunday. It was only because of the two lucky Armagh goals.... what nonsense. All scores count, whether they’re a piece of magic or the keeper turns round and kicks it into his own net.
There is a snobbery about goals coming from long punts into the square. Dinosaur tactics, and all that. Well, we got three goals from suchbtsctics, and one v Donegsl, so we obviously have personnel to take advantage of such tactics, so why wouldn’t we use them?
Anyway, Galway may well have been better, but they still could have lost the game. Unless you translate possession/chances into scores, there’s a chance you still won’t win the game.
William Of Orange
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As I said before the sending off really skewed the match in Galway favour , 58 minutes 2 points down we were starting to come at them. Before that they were slightly better and more clinical , no game is ever over until 70 minutes +