Allianz Football League 2022 Division 1

pablo

pablo

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What is the status on Murnin? I really like the idea of him and Rian switching back and forth between full forward and further backfield. Murnin has a great leap and confident on the ball-very awkward for a back to mark and he creates space for other forwards. Always thought he and Rian could work well together-the goal Murnin scored against Down two years ago was an example. Great ball in from Rian and Murnin using his leap and flick of the fist to score. Inquiring about Murnin and his latest injury update is almost a ritual now-I don't mean that as a slight against the lad, its very unfortunate that through no fault of his own that injuries have limited his time on the county team but hopefully now we can see an extended run. We do have plenty of exciting options but always really wanted Murnin get a year or two to really show what he can do
 
PutTheHighBallInLow

PutTheHighBallInLow

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Murnin got injured watching the Game on Sunday, poor lad , never really got to show his true potential in the orange jersey
pablo said:
What is the status on Murnin? I really like the idea of him and Rian switching back and forth between full forward and further backfield. Murnin has a great leap and confident on the ball-very awkward for a back to mark and he creates space for other forwards. Always thought he and Rian could work well together-the goal Murnin scored against Down two years ago was an example. Great ball in from Rian and Murnin using his leap and flick of the fist to score. Inquiring about Murnin and his latest injury update is almost a ritual now-I don't mean that as a slight against the lad, its very unfortunate that through no fault of his own that injuries have limited his time on the county team but hopefully now we can see an extended run. We do have plenty of exciting options but always really wanted Murnin get a year or two to really show what he can d
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Savo01

Savo01

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I have been critical of McGeeney and his management over the years but I have to say fair dues for how we are shaping up this year. It may have only taken 8 years and probably the best part of £1m but we look like serious contenders this year.
 
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armaghtimmy

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Savo01 said:
I have been critical of McGeeney and his management over the years but I have to say fair dues for how we are shaping up this year. It may have only taken 8 years and probably the best part of £1m but we look like serious contenders this year.
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Sad act- Did you want him to transfer in players maybe? Take your negativity off to Hogan stand or some EPL forum, must hurt to be so unhappy
 
GAAJohn

GAAJohn

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Savo01 said:
I have been critical of McGeeney and his management over the years but I have to say fair dues for how we are shaping up this year. It may have only taken 8 years and probably the best part of £1m but we look like serious contenders this year.
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Sad act- Did you want him to transfer in players maybe? Take your negativity off to Hogan stand or some EPL forum, must hurt to be so unhappy
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Yes we may have been frustrated at times as fans but you only have to see that we are beginning to reap the rewards of a complete rebuild that really started in 2016 , look how far the likes of derry and cavan fell going whole way to division 4 whilst we still had good days in the midst of our rebuild 2017 springs to mind. Derry also beginning to see the success of completely rebuilding after Rory gallagher completely overhauled the whole thing. A bit like we were going into 2019 playing div 2 football but yet to get that breakthrough provincial quarter final win under rory gallagher. Down another example of inconsistency through managerial changes think cahiar o kane tweeted they had used 85 different players in the last 3 years how are you meant to rebuild doing that? Give geezer credit where credit is due he's got everyone in the county committed, a brilliant management team assembled and a set of supporters starting to really believe in their county team again.
 
Savo01

Savo01

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armaghtimmy said:
Sad act- Did you want him to transfer in players maybe? Take your negativity off to Hogan stand or some EPL forum, must hurt to be so unhappy
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You're full of craic! You are allowed to be critical you know. As I said, delighted to see us doing so well, but McGeeney is very lucky, I cannot think of another county that would give a manager so long and support him so well as we have. He has stood over some poor results, like throwing away the Ulster semi final v Cavan in 2019 and blowing a lot of big leads in League games. Sligo, Westmeath, Clare and Kildare spring to mind for a start. Niall McCoy mentioned this on the RTE podcast on Monday.
Ultimately we are still short of a dominat full back like a Francie, Dublin's goal 2 weeks ago showed that, but you can't pluck these off trees so the tactics we are using to negate this are necessary and seem to be working by and large. We hemorrhaged too many soft goals in too many games, Monaghan last year still gives me nightmares so if we are going to concede some soft points by holding a tight backline, it is better than sloppy goals. If anyone remembers the Westmeath game in 2020, ten days before lockdown we went in 9 points up but they scored 3 goals in about 5/6 minutes at the start of the second half, that was happening too often.
We could just as easily have won that All Ireland last year as Tyrone did, they got a lot of luck along the way and we got none against Monaghan and I believe we can be in the mix this year. We can/will put up big scores in games and it now seems we've got the balance right between attack and defence. Having a man in Rian O'Neill who'd walk into any county team in Ireland is the cherry on the icing!
 
William Of Orange

William Of Orange

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Savo01 said:
You're full of craic! You are allowed to be critical you know. As I said, delighted to see us doing so well, but McGeeney is very lucky, I cannot think of another county that would give a manager so long and support him so well as we have. He has stood over some poor results, like throwing away the Ulster semi final v Cavan in 2019 and blowing a lot of big leads in League games. Sligo, Westmeath, Clare and Kildare spring to mind for a start. Niall McCoy mentioned this on the RTE podcast on Monday.
Ultimately we are still short of a dominat full back like a Francie, Dublin's goal 2 weeks ago showed that, but you can't pluck these off trees so the tactics we are using to negate this are necessary and seem to be working by and large. We hemorrhaged too many soft goals in too many games, Monaghan last year still gives me nightmares so if we are going to concede some soft points by holding a tight backline, it is better than sloppy goals. If anyone remembers the Westmeath game in 2020, ten days before lockdown we went in 9 points up but they scored 3 goals in about 5/6 minutes at the start of the second half, that was happening too often.
We could just as easily have won that All Ireland last year as Tyrone did, they got a lot of luck along the way and we got none against Monaghan and I believe we can be in the mix this year. We can/will put up big scores in games and it now seems we've got the balance right between attack and defence. Having a man in Rian O'Neill who'd walk into any county team in Ireland is the cherry on the icing!
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Everyone's entitled to their views and I agree 8 years is a long time for a county manager these days , especially without silverware . Just wondering where the 1 Million figure has come from , is that CB spending you are saying or are you implying that McGeeney has been paid a Million quid in 8 Years ?.
 
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Armaghball

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William Of Orange said:
Everyone's entitled to their views and I agree 8 years is a long time for a county manager these days , especially without silverware . Just wondering where the 1 Million figure has come from , is that CB spending you are saying or are you implying that McGeeney has been paid a Million quid in 8 Years ?.
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Who knows how much has been spent between all the different coaches that have been in, plus player’s expenses etc it’s probably gone above the million mark but who honestly cares? Every county team is spending big bucks, if you believe the rumours theres club teams spending well into 5 figures on managers to get bate in the first round of the championship!
 
Armagh_paul

Armagh_paul

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Savo01 said:
You're full of craic! You are allowed to be critical you know. As I said, delighted to see us doing so well, but McGeeney is very lucky, I cannot think of another county that would give a manager so long and support him so well as we have. He has stood over some poor results, like throwing away the Ulster semi final v Cavan in 2019 and blowing a lot of big leads in League games. Sligo, Westmeath, Clare and Kildare spring to mind for a start. Niall McCoy mentioned this on the RTE podcast on Monday.
Ultimately we are still short of a dominat full back like a Francie, Dublin's goal 2 weeks ago showed that, but you can't pluck these off trees so the tactics we are using to negate this are necessary and seem to be working by and large. We hemorrhaged too many soft goals in too many games, Monaghan last year still gives me nightmares so if we are going to concede some soft points by holding a tight backline, it is better than sloppy goals. If anyone remembers the Westmeath game in 2020, ten days before lockdown we went in 9 points up but they scored 3 goals in about 5/6 minutes at the start of the second half, that was happening too often.
We could just as easily have won that All Ireland last year as Tyrone did, they got a lot of luck along the way and we got none against Monaghan and I believe we can be in the mix this year. We can/will put up big scores in games and it now seems we've got the balance right between attack and defence. Having a man in Rian O'Neill who'd walk into any county team in Ireland is the cherry on the icing!
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I have to disagree here. He wasn't exactly inheriting a great team was he? Yes Grimley came in and identified a few players but that was a makeshift team. O'Rourke was a makeshift team as was McDonnell's. McGeeney said when he took over at the beginning of his tenure that things will get worse before they get better. Things did get worse but now the future seems a lot brighter. He has built a team with the future in mind, he wants to build a conveyer belt of talent not just now but for the next decade. I don't know about the goalkeeper situation within the county but we are evidently are not producing any for county level and he has moulded Blaine Hughes into a goalkeeper who has been criticised to shit by many people on the forum (myself included) but he has proven a lot of people wrong using him.

I am cool with management being criticised but you have to give them credit when it is warranted. It is not a one way street, fans shouldn't be so stubborn when admitting they were wrong. We all get it wrong, management get it wrong, players get it wrong and fans get it wrong. We criticise on the forum anonymously whilst they have to put their name and reputation on the line so the least we can do is be honest with our assessments. If anything McGeeney and the players have been unlucky with some of those results and some they do have to take the blame for. IMO you are right about last year with Monaghan. McGeeney after the Dublin game was talking about Forker etc being missing through injury it is true to an extent but everyone knows it wasn't Forker being missing - our defence was shite. And yes, we do need a balance in a attack and defence which has been neglected for years but now things are in motion to put it right and allow us to do what we are capable of.

It is only the league and the championship is the true test, but give McGeeney/Management/Players their dues the work is going in and the latest run of results shows this
 
William Of Orange

William Of Orange

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Armaghball said:
Who knows how much has been spent between all the different coaches that have been in, plus player’s expenses etc it’s probably gone above the million mark but who honestly cares? Every county team is spending big bucks, if you believe the rumours theres club teams spending well into 5 figures on managers to get bate in the first round of the championship!
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Yea we all know the rumours , And GAA is an expensive business , but if a manger has received a Million quid (and I'm not sure that's what's being implied I'm just curious ) current corporate governance and compliance on all organizations . clubs etc. today could a million quid vanish into a black hole ?. I don't know .
 
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POINTMAN

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Savo01 said:
I have been critical of McGeeney and his management over the years but I have to say fair dues for how we are shaping up this year. It may have only taken 8 years and probably the best part of £1m but we look like serious contenders this year.
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I think Savo01 is correct and it is a fair comment (even though many may not like it).
As someone else has said, who else other than Geezer would have been given so long to get it right? The record in the championship under him was awful and we do have a reputation for conceding big scores and losing from winning positions.
Bur hopefully - and I know it is only February - we can make a real go of it this year - the signs are really good. Strong panel and playing great football. Other teams like Dublin and Mayo have fallen from their heights and an average Tyrone team won last year. Why not us this year?
I have not been Geezers biggest fan (due to the above failings over the years) - but I support the county all through. Here's to many good days out this year....
 
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