ragingbull
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League prediction
Donegal
Armagh
Cork
Meath
Kildare
Cavan
Louth
Fermanagh
Donegal
Armagh
Cork
Meath
Kildare
Cavan
Louth
Fermanagh
National Football League 2024
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Armaghball
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Armagh
Donegal
Cork
Cavan
Kildare
Meath
Louth
Fermanagh.
Donegal
Cork
Cavan
Kildare
Meath
Louth
Fermanagh.
ragingbull
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No McNamee,Sudden & 2 Donnellys for Tyrone weakens them big time
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Then they should ref it consistently. Not even from game to game but within games their interpretation changes.It kind of is defined Niall. The only tackle really allowed is with an open hand on "the ball". The only actual physical contact allowed in the rules is shoulder to shoulder with both players travelling in the same direction - that kind of means running alongside an opponent carrying the ball. Then a player may "nudge" an opponent when he releases the ball in an effort to dispossess him, or using the near hand try and "flick" the ball away again as it is played. You often see a player remonstrating that they used their shoulder. In affect they are correct, but the fact the opponent is lying unconscious on the ground requiring oxygen and medical assistance is lost on them. A sudden stop block to the centre of the chest or other frontal areas could be extremely dangerous which is why it isn't allowed.
No surrounding of a payer or beating on him or the ball is actually allowed either. It must be a single handed attempt on the ball and only one player can attempt the tackle. Once a second gets involved, that becomes a 3rd player tackle. The only time it's permissible to surround an opponent is to simply block them from moving or playing away the ball to a team mate, but like already outlined, players can't simply use both hands (or feet, legs and knees etc. if you're a diving midget) to try and dispossess a player in possession. How that's supposed to be achieved in reality without physical contact is anyones guess.
One definition:
The Tackle
The Tackle is re-defined as:
“The Tackle is a skill by which a player may dispossess an opponent or frustrate his objective within the Rules of Fair Play. The tackle is aimed at the ball, not the player. The tackler may use his body to confront the opponent but deliberate bodily contact (such as punching, slapping, arm holding, pushing, tripping, jersey pulling or a full frontal charge) is forbidden. The only deliberate physical contact can be a Fair Charge i.e. Shoulder-to-shoulder with at least one foot on the ground. More than one player can tackle the player in possession, but only one at a time.”
Quite simple really when you think about it
ragingbull
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Top GAA inter-county referees fail tough new fitness tests in record numbers
Top officials such as All-Ireland final referee last year, David Gough, plus the likes of David Coldrick, Niall Cullen, Anthony Nolan, and Derek O’Mahoney were among those who came up short in pre-season tests
gael_force_orchard
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The more I look at the teams in this division, the more I come to the conclusion that it's a seriously difficult line up of teams we play against. Having 4 home games is huge here. I would have argued Donegal are not as bad as people were making them out to be because of injuries last year. Louth have been a bogey team, but I think they will be missing a trick losing Mickey Harte. Never know what you are going to get with Cavan, and fermanagh away will just be dogged.
I'm off the opinion that we go with the strongest line ups we have initially and try and get points on the board. Get to the all Ireland series through the league initially. Ulster can wait, there is no real merit in chasing a provincial now, other than to recoup a bad league position and make the all Ireland series by the back door via a provincial final. We seen it play out last year, all 8 provincial finalists were leggy in the group stages of the all Ireland. So the league is by far the more important competition.
Promotion allows us a risk free rattle at division 1 next year with a team that will hopefully blood a bit of youth. Staying in division 2 means we have our backs to the wall next year with what will likely be a completely new team. Relegation, don't even go there. We need to go for the league, because we can't expect players in their mid 30s to go to the well again next season. McGeeneys 10th season, and it will be the defining one by which he is remembered.
I'm off the opinion that we go with the strongest line ups we have initially and try and get points on the board. Get to the all Ireland series through the league initially. Ulster can wait, there is no real merit in chasing a provincial now, other than to recoup a bad league position and make the all Ireland series by the back door via a provincial final. We seen it play out last year, all 8 provincial finalists were leggy in the group stages of the all Ireland. So the league is by far the more important competition.
Promotion allows us a risk free rattle at division 1 next year with a team that will hopefully blood a bit of youth. Staying in division 2 means we have our backs to the wall next year with what will likely be a completely new team. Relegation, don't even go there. We need to go for the league, because we can't expect players in their mid 30s to go to the well again next season. McGeeneys 10th season, and it will be the defining one by which he is remembered.
I think Armagh and Donegal are the 2 stand out teams in division 2 but think cork and Kildare are teams that will eventually be top teams wether it's 2 or 3 years time, I think Cavan also are playing below what they should be, but I'd say Fermanagh,Louth and Meath should be 3 teams that are well below our level, I understand why people want us to be promoted but with us having an easier draw to a Ulster final and I think we should at least finish in top 4, I think if we can't try 3 or 4 players now when can we? For me we are in for a big drop off in 2 or 3 years if we don't blood players in now
Armaghball
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Agree. Cant rely on Forker/Grugan etc forever need to be bringing new lads in as well.
ragingbull
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Is it to early for championship & All Ireland predictions
I'm sure many of you made the many trips over the years in the league when we were struggling to get out if div 3 & 2. If it has taught us anything about this group it's that nothing is a given and we tend to play at the same level as our opposition. We've always been the plum tie for other teams due to our large support, high profile management & exciting unpredictability. It will be no different this year so expect absolutely anything & everything this campaign.
They have been in 3 under 20 finals in 5 years or something like that, they are definitely a team that will come to the fore sometime soon
Diarmi
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I don't know whether you had the chance to watch the Roscommon v Galway in the FBD final on Friday or the Derry v Donegal game yesterday but you couldn't get two more contrasting games in terms of style of play and more importantly entertainment. The former finished 2-25 to 13 points to Roscommon and was a really entertaining game of football. It had everything you would want to see including a lot of excellent scores, high fielding, excellent defending and hard hitting and, in my opinion, a real example of what our game could and should look like. On the other hand the game last night was bordering on unwatchable. This is no surprise because the two greatest architects and proponents of the modern game were in opposite dugouts. If you or anyone on here would prefer to watch the game last night then we will never agree.
PatMustard
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What is entertaining about watching a team coast a match by 18 points
Diarmi
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Yeah, I'd say it definitely helped.