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Armaghniac

Armaghniac

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Muckser said:
Is a TV game Saturday no word who yet will be. If its us the Mrs will kill me lol....
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The hurling fecks ups the parking, the attendance would have small enough and parking no problem otherwise.
Timing your arrival for the end of the hurling might work, but if you didn't get a slot then you would be hard pressed to get parked and back for the throw in.
Apparently there is loads of bicycle parking there, so put a rothar in the boot and cycle the 3km.

There will be tv cameras for the hurling, I expect. This may increase our prospects of being on, or perhaps they'll put it on youtube.
 
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Peter grimes

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Smallball said:
Dont like how most on here seem to think we are automatically in an ulster final. Cavan where ulster champions not so long ago. We are definitely favourites on our side of the draw but no one is going to roll over and let us walk through.
On another topic, any highlights from yesterday's game available anywhere?
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Nobody has said we are automatically in an Ulster final. But we are in the decidedly weaker half of the draw. After ourselves the team playing at the highest level is Fermanagh. We have to turn up an beat these sides but we really should be doing that. The final would be a different matter. Whoever comes through that side of the draw will be battle hardened, in form and very likely will have a full league season against Division 1 opponents.
 
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Naka

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Peter grimes said:
Nobody has said we are automatically in an Ulster final. But we are in the decidedly weaker half of the draw. After ourselves the team playing at the highest level is Fermanagh. We have to turn up a beat these sides but we really should be doing that. The final would be a different matter. Whoever comes through that side of the draw will be battle hardened, in form and very likely will have a full league season against Division 1 opponents.
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It would be disappointing if we didn’t reach an Ulster final and I believe it’s the minimum that management would be targeting .
 
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MrMaguire2002

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Armagh did what they had to do to get out of a poor division.

Meath, Kildare, and Cavan were all horrendous. Louth showed us how good Fermanagh are yesterday.

You can only beat what it is front of you but a lot of these lads have not been tested against high class opposition.

The issue is they should have little problem reaching an Ulster Final and will not have faced proper opposition before then.

We didn't deserve to beat Louth. Got a draw against a Donegal team that are at the very beginning of their journey with McGuinness.

Some very obvious big names not fully fit yet or out of favour. Derry are a class above anything we have played (or anyone we will have before an Ulster Final).

A few obvious big names are needed back before that potential final for us to give Derry a serious challenge. We owe them one - that goes without saying. But we haven't had a starting 15 yet who would be capable of beating Derry. But we have a panel capable of beating them - so time to get the notable absentees game time.
 
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Wide ball

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MrMaguire2002 said:
Armagh did what they had to do to get out of a poor division.

Meath, Kildare, and Cavan were all horrendous. Louth showed us how good Fermanagh are yesterday.

You can only beat what it is front of you but a lot of these lads have not been tested against high class opposition.

The issue is they should have little problem reaching an Ulster Final and will not have faced proper opposition before then.

We didn't deserve to beat Louth. Got a draw against a Donegal team that are at the very beginning of their journey with McGuinness.

Some very obvious big names not fully fit yet or out of favour. Derry are a class above anything we have played (or anyone we will have before an Ulster Final).

A few obvious big names are needed back before that potential final for us to give Derry a serious challenge. We owe them one - that goes without saying. But we haven't had a starting 15 yet who would be capable of beating Derry. But we have a panel capable of beating them - so time to get the notable absentees game time.
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I don't agree with what people are saying about division 2, before a ball was kicked cork and Kildare where thought as promotion candidates along with ourselves and Donegal, alot of these games in the past we would have struggled to win, but we did that at ease with a number of regulars out, I think that's a good thing, we have hopefully learned and grown from a few years in division 1 and I think we can and will compete with Derry and anyone for that matter
 
Diarmi

Diarmi

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I think a lot of people are jumping the gun thinking that Derry will be in the Ulster final. They might well be but they have to get past Donegal first and then most likely Tyrone or Monaghan.
There tends to be a lot of contradictions in football, we talk about how Kerry and Dublin don't need to peak until the quarter finals and this is a positive thing but then also say you can't beat competitive games so I'm not sure which is true. This year Derry will have played all the top teams in the league and will then need to beat some of the best teams in the country to get to an Ulster final whereas we can get to the same stage by playing a much lower standard of opposition. You would imagine we will be the fresher team by that stage and maybe that could be enough to give us the extra edge required?????
 
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Armaghball

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Diarmi said:
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun thinking that Derry will be in the Ulster final. They might well be but they have to get past Donegal first and then most likely Tyrone or Monaghan.
There tends to be a lot of contradictions in football, we talk about how Kerry and Dublin don't need to peak until the quarter finals and this is a positive thing but then also say you can't beat competitive games so I'm not sure which is true. This year Derry will have played all the top teams in the league and will then need to beat some of the best teams in the country to get to an Ulster final whereas we can get to the same stage by playing a much lower standard of opposition. You would imagine we will be the fresher team by that stage and maybe that could be enough to give us the extra edge required?????
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Hard to know. We could end up coming in undercooked having not played any good teams (maybe that happened last year?) or we could come in fresher, who knows.

Obviously only the league but from what we’ve seen so far you’d have to make Derry favourites against those 3.
 
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Wee man

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Diarmi said:
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun thinking that Derry will be in the Ulster final. They might well be but they have to get past Donegal first and then most likely Tyrone or Monaghan.
There tends to be a lot of contradictions in football, we talk about how Kerry and Dublin don't need to peak until the quarter finals and this is a positive thing but then also say you can't beat competitive games so I'm not sure which is true. This year Derry will have played all the top teams in the league and will then need to beat some of the best teams in the country to get to an Ulster final whereas we can get to the same stage by playing a much lower standard of opposition. You would imagine we will be the fresher team by that stage and maybe that could be enough to give us the extra edge required?????
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I agree - Donegal / Tyrone v Derry. Anything can happen. Derry be favs alright but no shock if they were beat.
 
Armaghniac

Armaghniac

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Armaghball said:
Hard to know. We could end up coming in undercooked having not played any good teams (maybe that happened last year?) or we could come in fresher, who knows.

Obviously only the league but from what we’ve seen so far you’d have to make Derry favourites against those 3.
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Derry might be 2/1 favourites against those teams, but there is only an even money chance of beating both of them.
 
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Hoops

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Diarmi said:
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun thinking that Derry will be in the Ulster final. They might well be but they have to get past Donegal first and then most likely Tyrone or Monaghan.
There tends to be a lot of contradictions in football, we talk about how Kerry and Dublin don't need to peak until the quarter finals and this is a positive thing but then also say you can't beat competitive games so I'm not sure which is true. This year Derry will have played all the top teams in the league and will then need to beat some of the best teams in the country to get to an Ulster final whereas we can get to the same stage by playing a much lower standard of opposition. You would imagine we will be the fresher team by that stage and maybe that could be enough to give us the extra edge required?????
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They have lads like Glass with the mentality they've shown the last few years to move from all ireland club final losses and wins straight into intercounty league the following week. Hard to see them complaining about the schedule. They don't even really have many key players over 30, I think rodgers is under it then the rest are younger than him. McKaigue looked worse for wear last year, think he's the only one they really have to worry about.

Kerry & Dublin can afford to not peak until later in the season because they have players, coaches & backroom staff with packed trophy cabinets and bags of experience of playing in finals. It's a totally different psychological position to a Derry or Armagh who will be the first in a generation to even play in a final.
 
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