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GAAGael

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McGeeney can only silence his critics by beating Derry in the Ulster final next month. A D2 league title isn’t changing any opinions
IMO if McGeeney won today, regardless of what happens in Ulster, he would be Armagh manager next year. Now he has to win ulster and/or make all ireland semi-final minimum.
 

GAAGael

Active Member
I don’t think it does anyone credit to exaggerate the potential impact of the Cullyhanna contingent. This sort of stuff is just divisive.

For what it’s worth, I really rate Jason Duffy and hope he’s back in for the championship. But McElroy has been occupying his role this year and playing very well. Understandable that Duffy has to bide his time right now, but he’ll be important again this year.

Aidan Nugent has really struggled to make an impact since his injury. I’m not sure who you drop out of Murnin, Turbitt or Conaty to make room for him, or how that could be justified. Hopefully he can get back to his form of two or three years ago, but he’s clearly not there right now.

And, for whatever reason, McQuillan is yet to deliver on his potential in an Armagh jersey. There’s just very little in his back catalogue of performances to justify significant playing time.
Im not saying they would've set the world alight, but surely they deserve a chance?
 

thecritic

Well-Known Member
Nonsense. And you wouldn’t be saying that had it been a more established player
Niall - we agree on most on here and debate is great but that was a crazy decision to make today - certainly not nonsense to challenge it! And of course it wouldn't be an issue for an experienced player - that's the point.
 

stevie_06

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Derry and Dublin getting a bit feisty. The first red card was very soft. Very minimal contact and the Derry man just went to ground.

If similar scenes had happened in our match there would be uproar. Doubt the same will happen for either Dublin or Derry
 

Dylan53

Member
Stop calling a D2 title a “national title”. Winning the all-Ireland means you’re the best team in the nation, thus it’s a national title. Winning D1 makes you the best of the top 8 teams in the nation, also a national title.

Winning D2 means you’re the best of the of the 9th-16th best teams in the country. You’re the best of 8 midlevel teams, not the best in the nation
 

Wide ball

Well-Known Member
He’s the defence coach. 1 person out of a management team of 6.

Irregardless, all of those 3 lads were important players to feature for Armagh over the last 2-3 seasons. Went back to their club after last season and won everything in front of them. Then come back to Armagh and hardly get a sniff?

Our senior champions - dominating Armagh for the last 2-3 decades can’t get one player on the field?

Instead a 20-21 year old debutant (nothing personal against the lad - just an example) is entrusted to help deliver silverware?

Armagh had a brilliant league campaign, why? They let off the shackles and played to their strengths. Then today, shackles back on, mind games activated.

Have the management not learned their lesson from the Galway/Monaghan all Ireland QF’s and Ulster final?
I agree with this, how many teams don't play a player from dominate club chams, we have great depth but when you start Joe McElroy and of burns in half forward line that is a negative set up imo, I'd have both in half back, we have 2 players not afraid to kick the ball forker and grugan and first sub off was one of those 2, I just feel we have no confidence in our own ability until the game is near lost, but look at Derry, who we should of beat last year, they believe in themselves, we don't that's the difference and maybe management has to take responsibility
 

John

Member
Jason Duffy, Ross McQuillan and Aidan Nugent. Three men who won an Ulster and All-Ireland with their club. Most recently the All Ireland in Croke Park - something that an Armagh player hasn't achieved in a long long time. Yet hardly got a sniff of game time in league or final. Questionable team selection and subs - but how dare we criticise the manager. 10 years and nothing to show for it.... yet.
Have to disagree we have achieved 2 division 3 National titles
 

Wide ball

Well-Known Member
Penalties seem great when we are not involved lol. I would never okay down a division 2 title, we have won fuck all to start acting like we are too good for any title. I'd of like to have won to show we have grown but but now I fear that those tactics will be used against any half decent team, it is all just very deflating, I have no issues losing like we did against Galway 2 years ago, we lost with our boats on with few regrets having given our all but Derry Monaghan and today there are loads of what ifs,
 

niall1980

Well-Known Member
Niall - we agree on most on here and debate is great but that was a crazy decision to make today - certainly not nonsense to challenge it! And of course it wouldn't be an issue for an experienced player - that's the point.
A bit odd I’ll give you that but not the big deal people here are making out. He wasn’t, I think, named in the programme which woukd suggest McCambridge was injured or ill. To repeat the oft used line on this forum, we don’t know what goes on in training. Wasn’t the losing of the game regardless
 

Armagh_paul

Well-Known Member
There are a lot of differing opinions on here about the league final. It would have been nice to win the league D2 but it won't make much difference. Arguing over a dam league title when a couple of years ago nobody on here cared. As fans we need to be kept grounded we have a bad habit of getting ahead of ourselves when things go well and for me it puts pressure on the players. I have certainly learned to keep my expectations grounded, too much heartbreak over the last 2 years.

We are in a good state at the moment - we wanted promotion and got it. Another Ulster final if we play well and get past the QF. We can mix it up with the best in D1 just need to have that belief - work on the dam flaws!
 

thecritic

Well-Known Member
Stop calling a D2 title a “national title”. Winning the all-Ireland means you’re the best team in the nation, thus it’s a national title. Winning D1 makes you the best of the top 8 teams in the nation, also a national title.

Winning D2 means you’re the best of the of the 9th-16th best teams in the country. You’re the best of 8 midlevel teams, not the best in the nation
Dylan, do you mind me asking your opinion on the club championship structure and the rationale behind it?
 
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