jpowell100
Active Member
Very strong words for you, but you are right. It’s a disgrace the way we are being treated, but it’s nothing new it’s been going on for 15 years at least. Don’t really understand where this started
National League 2019
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Very strong words for you, but you are right. It’s a disgrace the way we are being treated, but it’s nothing new it’s been going on for 15 years at least. Don’t really understand where this started
The sa slashers
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Sure nobody likes the Orangemen
Bo Darville
Active Member
Just read that article and I genuinely, and I mean genuinely, have no idea what you are complaining about. Maybe they’ve edited it after spotting your irate post but I really can’t see much wrong with it.
They basically said Morgan was a sacrificial lamb following the melee, Sheridan could have been sent of and Armagh conceded 28 frees to donegals 12.
Even agreed with Jim McCorry that some decisions went against Armagh.
The 28 frees to 12 is a stat, all bias is removed. You can’t argue with that. We all know that we need to improve our discipline, blaming the Irish News for reporting the stat isn’t going to get us anywhere.
Sorry @Calm1 but I have to agree with this. That article was alright. The only gripe I would have with it is it failed to mention the Donegal play acting
I agree - the article wasn't that bad or one sided. Orange tinted glasses can obscure the view and sometimes we can see things that are not there. Better to look at how we can improve our own performances than get excited about the opinions of others.
PatMustard
Well-Known Member
Watched Sheridan’s stamp last night. I was expecting it to be a lot worse.
Having said that, it was stupid and dangerous, and a ban is deserved.
We need to cut that shite out. Regardless of how much you detest your opponents, these are ordinary lads playing ball and have a days work to do the next day.
Having said that, it was stupid and dangerous, and a ban is deserved.
We need to cut that shite out. Regardless of how much you detest your opponents, these are ordinary lads playing ball and have a days work to do the next day.
Ard Mhacha 13
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My issue with the report is that while referring to "Armagh's physicality" in the same paragraph as the "melee" there is no mention that it was a high & dangerous "tackle" on Jemar which led to the melee nor the fact that the perpitrator got no card, which could bring into question other refereeing decisions.
As regards our "alleged" foul count or stats let's keep in mind the famous quote "There are 3 kinds of lies, lies, damned lies & statistics"
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ragingbull
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I'm calling it Sheridan to be banned for the rest of the league
Jesus christ there's some fecking pansies about if you're looking a media blackout on the back of that article. In fact the article is very complimentary at parts in that it says there's lots of football in this Armagh team and there's real attacking flair. The reality is that there does not seem to be an ability to properly defend and people think that hard, rough tackling is 'good' tackling. The reality is that very few players nowadays actually know how to defend and use physicality as the only means to an end. 28 fouls against is a testimony to that approach. I know Martin McNally who refereed and I have always felt that he will let the game go a bit if you stick reasonably close to the rules. The fact that there is a focus on the ill-discipline as opposed to the fact that they only lost by a point is the frustrating thing in my book.
Here is the reality, teams that consistently lose always look for external factors to cover up their own deficiencies. The ref, the weather, the press pressurizing the ref, whatever ....the reality is that when a team goes back into the dressing room they need to take a very long hard look at themselves, players and management. The ethos of the management generally is borne through the players and the style of football. The reality is that this team has no true identity. The management have chopped and changed styles, tried to be clever, tried to put square pegs in round holes. In my opinion it's shit or bust time. Players need to accept responsibility as do the management and don't look for easy excuses. Also supporters need to realise that there is not a fecking agenda against us. Get over yourselves and see it for what it is....a dog fight for 2 games where the winner really will take all in many respects.
Here is the reality, teams that consistently lose always look for external factors to cover up their own deficiencies. The ref, the weather, the press pressurizing the ref, whatever ....the reality is that when a team goes back into the dressing room they need to take a very long hard look at themselves, players and management. The ethos of the management generally is borne through the players and the style of football. The reality is that this team has no true identity. The management have chopped and changed styles, tried to be clever, tried to put square pegs in round holes. In my opinion it's shit or bust time. Players need to accept responsibility as do the management and don't look for easy excuses. Also supporters need to realise that there is not a fecking agenda against us. Get over yourselves and see it for what it is....a dog fight for 2 games where the winner really will take all in many respects.
ragingbull
Well-Known Member
That report is arrogant & bias!
Careful - you will get scolded for telling the truth!
In my opinion eye gouging is at best on the same level of not worse. That Roscommon is got 1 game for eye gouging so Sheridan should get the same. I’m. It sure what the rules are tho
PatMustard
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Here, who said we can’t be promoted as it stands?
If we won our two games, we will be on 8 points. If Meath/Ferm lost their games, they’ll finish on 8. So won’t it come down to +/- scoring difference?
If we won our two games, we will be on 8 points. If Meath/Ferm lost their games, they’ll finish on 8. So won’t it come down to +/- scoring difference?
We still can be promoted. Unlikely but possible. We have to win those two games tho. Fermanagh play meath Intheir last game so they can’t both lose both games. We would need Donegal to lose at least once. Fermanagh to lose both. Kildare to not win both
ragingbull
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Your forgetting about kildare & Donegal
ragingbull
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I fair that cork will beat Donegal at home in their next game you would expect kildare to beat Tipperary at home & Meath to win away to Clare
PatMustard
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Aye well yeah, them too.
Point is, if we finished on 8 with a few others, we still have a chance.
I think if you take a look again at the stamp, the player on the ground raised his foot to Sheridan just before the stamp.
We need to stop condemning Stephen, we are just making it easy for them to punish him
I don't think it was a high tackle on jemar but it was certainly a dangerous one. The referee had given us a free and was dealing with it.
What caused the melee was Rory grugan coming in and throwing a cowardly punch. He then got threw around ballybofey like a back of crisps whilst other lads such as mcabe & Morgan had no choice but to back up their colleagues.
Grugan caused the row. Don't get involved in things you can't sort out.