Qualifiers 2018

Big Jim

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So folks last week in heat had to be draining...do any if the subs start for you or any other changes?
Much as I hate to change a wining team, you'd imagine some of the guys that came on to turn it around would be looking at a start and I'm guessing that's the way you're looking at it, so I'd say I'd agree. As I wasn't there (I know, not a great supporter - hangs head in shame) I can't comment on who though.
 

Influx

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Have the GAA discussed water breaks for players playing in this heat?
Having supported our team for nearly forty years and given the nature of our comeback last weekend and other performances down the years which have placed great physical and emotion strain on the Armagh faithful, have the GAA considered breaks for medical check-ups and destressing activities e.g. yoga or pints for supporters during games!
 

Mickey Gormley

Active Member
Mc quillan maybe to come on earlier too... An maybe Owens half back an not full...looked a bit lost there... PS have we ever won in portlaois:(
 

Ard Mhacha 13

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I've just been looking at the Super 8s fixtures which has seriously ramped up the nerves for tomorrow but also reinforced the fact that we are literally within touching distance of getting to this stage, so now I really, really, really want the win tomorrow. Obviously it's our biggest test to date but anything is possible on the day & one thing I know for certain our boys will give their everything right up to the final whistle.

C'MON ARMAGH.
 

PatMustard

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Having supported our team for nearly forty years and given the nature of our comeback last weekend and other performances down the years which have placed great physical and emotion strain on the Armagh faithful, have the GAA considered breaks for medical check-ups and destressing activities e.g. yoga or pints for supporters during games!

Funny enough, something like that crossed my mind. Free water fill ups for fans. Could easily get dehydrated in that heat.

And for double headers and cold days, half time exercises to keep warm and stop the arse getting sore.

I mean, you might drive 2 hours to sit for 3 more at the match, then sit again for the 2 hours home. DVT and all that, eh?
 

Imposerous

New Member
From the 'Roscommon People' newspaper:

"Promised Land is just beyond The Orchard
All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers Round 4
Roscommon v Armagh at O’Moore Park, Portlaoise on Saturday at 3 pm

Even though caution must be the watchword, almost every Roscommon football supporter was hoping that their team would come out of the hat with the winners of the Armagh v Clare match, and so it transpired. It provides Roscommon with an excellent chance to get to the promised land of the Super 8s and a thrilling series of games against top class opposition.
Yes, Roscommon will have to go about their business with serious intent, but realistically this is a game that Kevin McStay’s men should win. I’ll put it this way, if Roscommon do not beat Armagh then they simply do not deserve to be in the final 8.
The three-week break since the Connacht Final loss has been an ideal amount of time for recovery. It afforded time for the players to lick their wounds and take stock before coming back with renewed enthusiasm. According to all reports, training has been going well. The team have played a couple of challenge games in the past week or so and they did well in both, so they should be ready for the challenge.
Looking back is pointless, but the management will be keen to address the slack second-half display in the Connacht final when the team seemed to lose concentration and focus. It is something that they will want to rule out of their play this weekend.
It is good to hear that Cathal Compton is back in training; we all know what happened when he went off against Galway. The return to full training of Niall Daly and Ultan Harney is also welcome. We need to stamp our authority on the middle sector on Saturday.
The Roscommon defence was outstanding against Galway and hopefully that will be the case on Saturday. We need our attack to fire for the 70 minutes and not 45 as happened in the Connacht final. The players are there, they have to go out and do it now because it’s down to this 70 minutes.
Armagh are not a typical ‘northern’ defensive team but they will certainly have a sweeper patrolling the half-back line on Saturday. Against Clare last week they were behind for most of the game before coming with a late scoring burst of 1-5 to win it.
They have a good record in the qualifier competition and under Kieran McGeeney they will be very well organised. In fact, if Armagh had a number of the players (including Jamie Clarke) available to them that are either away or injured then Roscommon would be facing a much more formidable side.
They rely on the strength of Brendan Donaghy and Arron McKay at numbers 3 and 6 respectively, with half-backs Mark Shields and Connaire Mackin pacy and attack-minded.
Armagh’s strongest sector is arguably their midfield pairing of the experienced Charlie Vernon and Stephen Sheridan. Niall Grimley leads the attack and is playing very well this year. Captain of the team, Rory Grugan, Andrew Murnin and Aidan Forker form a dangerous inside line.
Armagh ran away with Division 3 this year and are now on a roll after a few good qualifier wins. They will look at this game against Roscommon as a great chance for them to make the Super 8s and will travel with confidence.
But Roscommon have got the draw they wanted and this is a very winnable game. We are now down to knockout football and while Roscommon will have to play well, I sense a determination and drive among players and management that the Super 8s is where they want to be. It is so important to get there for the development of this team.
It might be closer than a lot of people think as Armagh will give it everything and there will be a huge crowd there on another scorching hot day. If Roscommon can box clever and get the ball into the Murtaghs, Smiths and the rest of the attack, the Primrose and Blue have the scoring power to win the match by four or five points. The Super 8s beckon!
Prediction: Roscommon."
 

Ard Mhacha 13

Well-Known Member
From the 'Roscommon People' newspaper:

"Promised Land is just beyond The Orchard
All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers Round 4
Roscommon v Armagh at O’Moore Park, Portlaoise on Saturday at 3 pm

Even though caution must be the watchword, almost every Roscommon football supporter was hoping that their team would come out of the hat with the winners of the Armagh v Clare match, and so it transpired. It provides Roscommon with an excellent chance to get to the promised land of the Super 8s and a thrilling series of games against top class opposition.
Yes, Roscommon will have to go about their business with serious intent, but realistically this is a game that Kevin McStay’s men should win. I’ll put it this way, if Roscommon do not beat Armagh then they simply do not deserve to be in the final 8.
The three-week break since the Connacht Final loss has been an ideal amount of time for recovery. It afforded time for the players to lick their wounds and take stock before coming back with renewed enthusiasm. According to all reports, training has been going well. The team have played a couple of challenge games in the past week or so and they did well in both, so they should be ready for the challenge.
Looking back is pointless, but the management will be keen to address the slack second-half display in the Connacht final when the team seemed to lose concentration and focus. It is something that they will want to rule out of their play this weekend.
It is good to hear that Cathal Compton is back in training; we all know what happened when he went off against Galway. The return to full training of Niall Daly and Ultan Harney is also welcome. We need to stamp our authority on the middle sector on Saturday.
The Roscommon defence was outstanding against Galway and hopefully that will be the case on Saturday. We need our attack to fire for the 70 minutes and not 45 as happened in the Connacht final. The players are there, they have to go out and do it now because it’s down to this 70 minutes.
Armagh are not a typical ‘northern’ defensive team but they will certainly have a sweeper patrolling the half-back line on Saturday. Against Clare last week they were behind for most of the game before coming with a late scoring burst of 1-5 to win it.
They have a good record in the qualifier competition and under Kieran McGeeney they will be very well organised. In fact, if Armagh had a number of the players (including Jamie Clarke) available to them that are either away or injured then Roscommon would be facing a much more formidable side.
They rely on the strength of Brendan Donaghy and Arron McKay at numbers 3 and 6 respectively, with half-backs Mark Shields and Connaire Mackin pacy and attack-minded.
Armagh’s strongest sector is arguably their midfield pairing of the experienced Charlie Vernon and Stephen Sheridan. Niall Grimley leads the attack and is playing very well this year. Captain of the team, Rory Grugan, Andrew Murnin and Aidan Forker form a dangerous inside line.
Armagh ran away with Division 3 this year and are now on a roll after a few good qualifier wins. They will look at this game against Roscommon as a great chance for them to make the Super 8s and will travel with confidence.
But Roscommon have got the draw they wanted and this is a very winnable game. We are now down to knockout football and while Roscommon will have to play well, I sense a determination and drive among players and management that the Super 8s is where they want to be. It is so important to get there for the development of this team.
It might be closer than a lot of people think as Armagh will give it everything and there will be a huge crowd there on another scorching hot day. If Roscommon can box clever and get the ball into the Murtaghs, Smiths and the rest of the attack, the Primrose and Blue have the scoring power to win the match by four or five points. The Super 8s beckon!
Prediction: Roscommon."

I hope they are wrong, so very, very wrong. Motivational material for our boys right there in black & white.
 

Diarmi

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If they are as good at football as they are at journalism then we should beat them by about 25 points, reads like a 12 year old wrote it.
 

William Of Orange

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Was thinking the exact same myself, I hope that all the Armagh supporters who attend the match have no voices left on Sunday. We want the boys to know we're behind them 100% & we want the Rossies to know that the vocal support is from the loyal orange & white section of the crowd who have travelled in huge numbers yet again. Let's make Portlaoise sound like it's an Armagh home game, C'MON ARMAGH.

Unfortunately I won’t be able to make the match (this is what happens when you let the wife arrange your holidays ) and I hope we have a good crowd down and are vocal , this is our All Ireland Final lads , no matter what anyone thinks who should / shouldn’t be playing
Or on the management set up , there is a time when we put that aside and get behind the lads , this is one of these times ,If we play to our potential I think we will win .

I’ll be thinking about you all sipping my cocktails at the beach (with my illegal stream) note the brackets , best of luck lads bring her home .

Ard Mhacha Abu .
 

Big Jim

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Unfortunately I won’t be able to make the match (this is what happens when you let the wife arrange your holidays ) and I hope we have a good crowd down and are vocal , this is our All Ireland Final lads , no matter what anyone thinks who should / shouldn’t be playing
Or on the management set up , there is a time when we put that aside and get behind the lads , this is one of these times ,If we play to our potential I think we will win .

I’ll be thinking about you all sipping my cocktails at the beach (with my illegal stream) note the brackets , best of luck lads bring her home .

Ard Mhacha Abu .
What brackets??
 

Ogs lad

Active Member
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pablo

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That's the Hogan Stand I believe.
I was in the Cusack stand for both games (draw and replay).
Game before the replay was a Dublin Hurling club championship fixture. How do I remember this? I still have the programme signed by the Armagh team. Even as a middle aged man it is still a treasured item from my childhood. The squad came into the stand around half time of the Hurling game and where in the row in front of me taking in the scene. Dennis Stevenson noticed me gawking at them, too awestruck to say anything or approach them. He came over and asked if I had a programme- which he took, signed and then brought me around the rest of the squad getting their signatures. Classy thing to do.
 

Ogs lad

Active Member
That's the Hogan Stand I believe.
I was in the Cusack stand for both games (draw and replay).
Game before the replay was a Dublin Hurling club championship fixture. How do I remember this? I still have the programme signed by the Armagh team. Even as a middle aged man it is still a treasured item from my childhood. The squad came into the stand around half time of the Hurling game and where in the row in front of me taking in the scene. Dennis Stevenson noticed me gawking at them, too awestruck to say anything or approach them. He came over and asked if I had a programme- which he took, signed and then brought me around the rest of the squad getting their signatures. Classy thing to do.

Brilliant Pablo. My mother god rest her was also at this game. Whats more, left me the ticket from the game. I must hoke it out, a yellow one if memory serves. Another influence on my love of the Orchard county
 

Diarmi

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ROSCOMMON boss Kevin McStay believes Armagh get a “hard press” and are the subject of unrealistic expectations because 2002 All-Ireland winning captain Kieran McGeeney is their manager.

The Orchardmen came in for plenty of criticism following their surprise Ulster Championship exit to Fermanagh back in May, but have responded with back door wins over Westmeath, Sligo and Clare.

McStay takes his Rossies side to Portlaoise for tomorrow’s winner-takes-all round four Qualifier clash against Armagh, with a much-coveted Super 8s place the prize on offer.

And the former RTE pundit believes McGeeney’s men were harshly treated in the aftermath of that defeat to the Ernemen.

He said: “I watched Armagh’s game against Fermanagh from top to toe, and I could think of 10 teams ranked higher than Armagh and ranked lower than Armagh that Fermanagh would have beaten that day - and I include ourselves in that.


“Because of the way Fermanagh play, it’s very difficult to play against. It can be sapping and mentally difficult to do it.

“I believe the current Armagh team gets a hard press… it’s probably because Kieran is their manager, they’re expecting so much from it. There’s nothing he can do about that.

“I’d say a lot of the northern journalists, because Kieran is their manager, you’re expecting stuff way beyond. Kieran was an All-Ireland champion, a fantastic captain and has shown himself to be a very decent manager with different teams, so people’s expectations of what Armagh should be doing is probably beyond what Armagh are capable of.

“This is the reality. They’re a developing team, everybody knows that. The same as us. Roscommon are, I hope, a developing team and I’d hope on Saturday we’d be saying ‘we’re beginning to mature a bit now’.

“But we’ve faced Armagh a couple of times in challenges over the last 24 months and they’re always tough games, and we’re expecting absolutely nothing else this time.”

Following their dramatic last-gasp victory over Clare at the Athletic Grounds last Saturday, McGeeney said “everybody’s going to be wishing they’ll be getting us” ahead of the Qualifier draw.

The Roscommon boss, however, insists that was not the case.

“We didn’t care who we got because we resolved among ourselves two weeks ago that round four was going to be about Roscommon – how we reacted, and what pride we were going to show after being beaten by Galway [in the Connacht final],” added McStay, whose side fell foul of the high-flying Tribesmen on June 17.

“We have used the last three weeks well and we’re going to be a better team for it, but now we have to show that want to get a bit of redemption and, if there’s a bit of frustration after the Connacht final, let’s see are we good enough to compete with the top eight.

“With all teams like Roscommon and Armagh, you don’t really know what you’re going to get because you haven’t hit that consistency of the Kerrys, the Dublins, the Mayos. Galway are getting into that level.

“I would have serious respect for what Kieran is trying to do with Armagh. This is the acid test now for Roscommon, and I’m sure for Armagh too.

“There’s no safety net, and there’s a huge prize for the winners. For both teams there’s no life beyond Saturday.”
 

Diarmi

Well-Known Member
I'm sure I'll get it in the neck for saying this but we do need to realise that we are an up an coming team and that we have probably achieved what we needed to already this season. In truth if we were to get to the S8s it may not be of much benefit as I don't think we are ready to compete with Dublin, Donegal or Tyrone yet and the experience could have detrimental effects. On saying that it would be a major achievement to get there and I would obviously love to beat Roscommon.

I think I am trying to get rid of my nerves by downplaying our chances, ohhh, where's the toilet!!
 
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