SneakyPint
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That was some robbery, disgraceful decisions by the ref
Senior championship
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Armaghball
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Couple of poor decisions yeah but Cross missed too many handy chances, better team won. Enjoyable game in poor conditions.
The ref was bad alright but cross we’re poor. Missed chances they would normally take. That’s why they lost
SneakyPint
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Agree cross were poor but ref gifted them 2 points in a 1 point defeat. The one against Rico was one of the worst decisions i've seen.
ragingbull
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John McEntee 1-0 Crossmaglen
Armagh_paul
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Look on the bright side, have the cross players for NFL and it is the most important NFL we have been involved in for years
Suil eile.
Active Member
There were plenty of days when the calls went with Cross. They will look at themselves and what they can control ! Tonight was similar to the county final were they weren't just at the races in the first half and had a better half. IMO the best team won tonight and good luck to them !
Peter grimes
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A lot of people “looking on the bright side” tonight. Could you maybe wait to Monday?? Cross will be hurting tonight. A poor first half and a couple of brutal calls against them just as they had the upper hand and were making it tell on the score board. You could also point to missed chances but Clontibret missed chances as well. A dirty night for football
Ard Mhacha 13
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ragingbull
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in the last 5mins cross kept putting the high ball instead of going for their scores very unlike cross
ragingbull
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have you ever seen him let a game flow
You associate with them uns?!!!
Only for work. Obviously when you have a choice you stay well away.
Rufus T Firefly
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Agree with a lot of the comments. I thought the better team won and yet Clontibret did indeed get very important points from one or two dubious frees. The free that Rico Kelly conceded was a terrible call.
That said, at this moment in time, Cross look to be off the pace somewhat in Ulster which in turn reflects badly on all of us. When Rangers were in their pomp, there were teams within our County who were capable of challenging for an Ulster Club - Mullaghbawn, Clan na Gael, Dromintee and Pearse Og - but they simply could not get out of Armagh. Rangers' dominance was therefore a reflection of their greatness and not the standard of football within our County.
However if this Rangers side starts to dominate without threatening Ulster Titles, then it does not look good. Indeed the fact that none of our sides made a semi-final this year does suggest that there is an underlying malaise in our Club football. Maybe a discussion for a new topic?
That said, at this moment in time, Cross look to be off the pace somewhat in Ulster which in turn reflects badly on all of us. When Rangers were in their pomp, there were teams within our County who were capable of challenging for an Ulster Club - Mullaghbawn, Clan na Gael, Dromintee and Pearse Og - but they simply could not get out of Armagh. Rangers' dominance was therefore a reflection of their greatness and not the standard of football within our County.
However if this Rangers side starts to dominate without threatening Ulster Titles, then it does not look good. Indeed the fact that none of our sides made a semi-final this year does suggest that there is an underlying malaise in our Club football. Maybe a discussion for a new topic?
Thought the ref got a few decisions at pivotal times of the game wrong, and cross can feel hard done by in a 1 point game, but as mentioned above, the persisted with the high ball when tipping away at the points would have seen them escape with a draw at least.
In terms of Armagh club football as a whole, in my opinion, its hard to judge intermediate and junior team progress in ulster as a reflection of the standard. The Grange, effectively a division 4 team (no disrespect) were up against the winners of a division 2 team.
I think Senior is the only grade that true comparisons can be made, as there is some consistency to the teams competing and winning these, but that’s just an opinion.
In terms of Armagh club football as a whole, in my opinion, its hard to judge intermediate and junior team progress in ulster as a reflection of the standard. The Grange, effectively a division 4 team (no disrespect) were up against the winners of a division 2 team.
I think Senior is the only grade that true comparisons can be made, as there is some consistency to the teams competing and winning these, but that’s just an opinion.
PatMustard
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I think generally speaking in Armagh you have a geographically small county with too many clubs. We have 40+ which is quite a lot, population wise the figures might suggest these numbers are justified but it’s worth remembering a substantial number are from the unionist community. We also have the Crossmaglen juggernaut which has dominated proceedings for a quarter of a century, this has undoubtedly affected the senior championship. I have no doubt in my mind if crossmaglen was in south Derry or east Tyrone they’d not have achieved the success they have, certainly not as many county titles. It’s a pity that the likes of Clans, Pearse Óg, Mullaghbawn and Dromintee are no longer at the levels they once were 15/20 years ago. Even Cullyhanna seem to be slipping which is another shame. I don’t think the current championship set up does anything for competitiveness, it affords the good teams an off day when they should be eliminated but seemingly a lot of people like the whole group stage and play off carry on
Regards intermediate, I think it’s unfair to brand grange a division 4 team, they are quite clearly an intermediate standard team. Who as a result of some silly decision to split a very competitive league in two were in the bottom half for this season. They beat two or three of the favourites and came up against a very strong galbally side who are not long out of senior and will be back playing senior again next season. That said intermediate teams in Armagh seem to be way off the pace of other counties in Ulster and it begs the question why? I can’t speak for junior football as I don’t see enough of it but I reckon we a couple of decent clubs at that level, blackwatertown even won an Ulster a few years back so the potential is there.
Again there was no disrespect with the Grange comment, they finished 3rd in the league in the county’s 4th league level, and they played against a team that won promotion to division 1 in Tyrone. If the Grange didn’t win the championship they would still be were they are.
A comparison of the state of Armagh club football shouldn’t be judged on that Grange result, as you have stated, they played a Galbally side not long out of senior and who are going back to senior.
SouthArmagh1
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Underage has to be looked at, is there enough support for players going through to senior, Cross do win a lot at underage but they do not dominate as much as they do at senior, clan na gael, clann eireann and killeavy dominate, with the odd golden generation for each club, but only cross ever seem to bring through their best players, manager or?
