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mackers

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That makes far more sense. Hopefully club leagues starting in March with a 200/300 limit which shouldn’t create a problem. Club championships run off in June/July with limits of 1000/2000 if required at that stage. County matches in late summer/autumn with no restrictions on attendances (fingers crossed). We may be able to see the Dubs/Kerry in a packed Athletic Grounds yet. Will get much needed money into the coffers.
 
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JoeH

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And as soon as they're out of the club championship over to the states they go
What about the county player - expected to play club then county with no break???

This year there were no stag events, no large weddings, no lads/ couple holidays

What's the club player going to do for six months?
 

M18

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JoeH not sure I understand your post?

if you are saying that lads will go to America after club season? So what? Season would be over by June or July in that proposal. What should they hang around for If they can go? To coach the u6s?
anyway don’t think there will be many getting to US so soon

not sure I see a difference between this schedule and existing for county player? ATM they train all year round except maybe a month?

On your last point. Think players always say more matches less training
Club players train Jan - Aug/Sept/Oct depending (Lucky few even later in year) They would get same amount of football as far as I understand
 

Throwball

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And as soon as they're out of the club championship over to the states they go
What about the county player - expected to play club then county with no break???

This year there were no stag events, no large weddings, no lads/ couple holidays

What's the club player going to do for six months?

Would this period be an opportunity to trial the regional teams in a league format. You could even have a couple of divisions. No county players but games for others and for many at a higher level. Plus the under 19s might get a championship played !
 

ShiftYa

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Seen this posted by Mullagbawn CLG Facebook page. Documentary made back in 1995 by the BBC. First time I’ve seen it, good watch, interesting to see how things have changed in 25 years and likewise how many things haven’t.
 

bcb1

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Seen this posted by Mullagbawn CLG Facebook page. Documentary made back in 1995 by the BBC. First time I’ve seen it, good watch, interesting to see how things have changed in 25 years and likewise how many things haven’t.
Painful memory but went an awful long way to creating the club we became. 33 minutes into it Benny Tierney made a quip that he has regretted to this day...his words were repeated over and over again at training.
 

PatMustard

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Painful memory but went an awful long way to creating the club we became. 33 minutes into it Benny Tierney made a quip that he has regretted to this day...his words were repeated over and over again at training.

I remember Benny saying something on that program, that Cross obviously used as ammunition the following year... and then a few months after that..

Do you think Benny is solely responsible for all the Crossmaglen success?
 

bcb1

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I remember Benny saying something on that program, that Cross obviously used as ammunition the following year... and then a few months after that..

Do you think Benny is solely responsible for all the Crossmaglen success?

Definitely not the sole reason but would remind him as often as possible that he was a huge influencer on what happened:D
 

Rufus T Firefly

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Joe McManus would always have linked that Mullabawn success to Armagh winning the All Ireland seven years later and indeed by dint of that you could maybe stretch that - alright, might be a stretch - to linking that success to the evolution of modern football as we know it.
 

Big Jim

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Interesting that Pete McGrath mentions "the last 3 or 4 years players have went from training twice a week and a game on a Sunday, to training 3 to 4 times a week with a game at the weekend," We seem to Constantly harp on about this as the way it is now, as if it's only just become the way it's done. That was McGrath speaking in 1994, so it's been that way for the best part of 30 years now. He also talks about "no-one outside the team realises the commitment of these men!"
 

bcb1

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Interesting that Pete McGrath mentions "the last 3 or 4 years players have went from training twice a week and a game on a Sunday, to training 3 to 4 times a week with a game at the weekend," We seem to Constantly harp on about this as the way it is now, as if it's only just become the way it's done. That was McGrath speaking in 1994, so it's been that way for the best part of 30 years now. He also talks about "no-one outside the team realises the commitment of these men!"

I know that we trained Tue, Thursday and Friday when I played. I would have been in the swimming pool and gym on Monday and Wednesday on my own and that was in 1996 and I wasn’t even fit! The notion that daily training is a new thing is a fallacy. The likes of the Kerry team under Micko would have been running the roads every day back in the 80’s
 

Big Jim

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I know that we trained Tue, Thursday and Friday when I played. I would have been in the swimming pool and gym on Monday and Wednesday on my own and that was in 1996 and I wasn’t even fit! The notion that daily training is a new thing is a fallacy. The likes of the Kerry team under Micko would have been running the roads every day back in the 80’s
Yeah I'd have been in the Tierney camp of training for about 10 minutes before the game started (see how I managed to bring a topical person into the conversation ;)). Regime was simple. Struggle to get the kit on while falling over several times. The exertion required to stand up again was great physical exercise so no need for all that running around lark and at the same time get some physio on an injured shoulder or elbow, from the fall.

Seriously though (of course that last bit about my training was serious) youngsters today need to see some of the stuff from around 25 years ago, just to realise they didn't invent training - mind you, laps??????? Thank god that stopped! I got dizzy watching the lads go round and round!
 

jpowell100

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You know what they say, you learn more from a defeat than any victory. Don’t think that’s ever been truer than here
 

bcb1

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Was geezer still with mullaghbawn when Cross beat them by a point in the 97 final?


Yeah and the following year too when we beat the in the 1/4 Final I think it was. He joined Na Fianna for the 1999 season and played against us in the 2000 All Ireland final.
 

KilleavyGael

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Yeah and the following year too when we beat the in the 1/4 Final I think it was. He joined Na Fianna for the 1999 season and played against us in the 2000 All Ireland final.

I can remember those games (was a minor at that stage myself) but couldn't remember geezer. Saw highlights of the 97 final on YouTube there and looks like he was brilliant! Was the quarter final the following year a tight game? Seems like that Mullaghbawn team pushed that Cross team a lot harder than Dromintee did, despite making less finals than them - note that I'm not saying that to get a rise out of any Dromintee hoors on here!
 

bcb1

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I can remember those games (was a minor at that stage myself) but couldn't remember geezer. Saw highlights of the 97 final on YouTube there and looks like he was brilliant! Was the quarter final the following year a tight game? Seems like that Mullaghbawn team pushed that Cross team a lot harder than Dromintee did, despite making less finals than them - note that I'm not saying that to get a rise out of any Dromintee hoors on here!

The 1998 was not as close. I checked the club website and it was the semi and we won by 8. In fairness we were at our absolute peak as a team in those few years. By that’s stage Mullaghbawn we’re starting to wane. Neil Smyth was in his final year, Shane Collins has moved away so the MF was weakened, Paul McNulty was gone too as was Paddy McGeeney. Some of their older lads were on their last legs and they didn’t have the players coming through. They had a very good bunch of lads coming through a few years below that but they were still a bit off.

They pushed us very hard but that was really their last hurrah. The reality is though that between them, Dromintee, Clans and Pearse Ogs there were 4-5 of the best teams in Ulster around that time and if the others had made the breakthrough you wonder how they would have gotten on. They were unfortunately playing against the best team in the country at that stage so they were always going to have to be at their maximum and hoped we were below par. That was a rare event
 

POINTMAN

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The 1998 was not as close. I checked the club website and it was the semi and we won by 8. In fairness we were at our absolute peak as a team in those few years. By that’s stage Mullaghbawn we’re starting to wane. Neil Smyth was in his final year, Shane Collins has moved away so the MF was weakened, Paul McNulty was gone too as was Paddy McGeeney. Some of their older lads were on their last legs and they didn’t have the players coming through. They had a very good bunch of lads coming through a few years below that but they were still a bit off.

They pushed us very hard but that was really their last hurrah. The reality is though that between them, Dromintee, Clans and Pearse Ogs there were 4-5 of the best teams in Ulster around that time and if the others had made the breakthrough you wonder how they would have gotten on. They were unfortunately playing against the best team in the country at that stage so they were always going to have to be at their maximum and hoped we were below par. That was a rare event
That was indeed a great Cross team - so many big strong footballers as well as being good players (Very much suited yo winter football when Ulster and all ireland matches wee played).
Others may know who bcb is but I do not - can you inform me?
 

thecritic

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Not a football topic but good luck to our camogs tomorrow. Our ladies footballers and camogs have been a shining light throughout these difficult times and our footballers gaining promotion has been very positive also. I for one will be attending as many ladies football, camogie and hurling matches in the future as I can. It's about time we supported these teams as much as our mens footballers.They represent our county and provide fantastic entertainment and sense of pride for us all.
 
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