PatMustard
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What does the championship look like next season then?
All Ireland Qualifiers
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JoeH
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The irony here could be that if Derry don't kick on they could be in that very position.
Provincial championships like normal. Then once finished moved to All Ireland group format.
4 groups of four teams. Consisting of the winners and losing finalists from each province. Then rest is made up based on league positions.
4 winners of group go through to quarter finals. Second and third place teams from each group (8 teams) then face off to get it down to 4 teams who then progress to quarter finals.
I believe that is the format
JoeH
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So winning the provincial championship means nothing - no incentive
northarmaghgael
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So is every team guaranteed at least 4 championship games next year? (1 provincial and 3 round robin games).
Also there’s possibility of a team playing 11 championship games if they win an all Ireland. If from ulster and win the ulster championship from first round that’s 4 games. Then the 3 round robin games. If they finish 2nd/3rd, they’ll play a play-off. That’s another 4 games. Then the QF, SF then final.
Least we’ve a summer full of football next year
I think it will affect seeding in the group stages.
But I know a lot of Armagh fans would love to win ulster. So wouldn't say it means nothing
That's is the idea behind as far as I understand.So is every team guaranteed at least 4 championship games next year? (1 provincial and 3 round robin games).
Also there’s possibility of a team playing 11 championship games if they win an all Ireland. If from ulster and win the ulster championship from first round that’s 4 games. Then the 3 round robin games. If they finish 2nd/3rd, they’ll play a play-off. That’s another 4 games. Then the QF, SF then final.
Least we’ve a summer full of football next year
Although I am sure there are more knowledgeably people than me who can elaborate further
JoeH
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When it actually meant something I'd agree.
But given how tight in terms of when games were played this year next year is going to be a nightmare
So it'd look like the provincial championship starts as soon as the league is over
The league format of the championship would have to start maximum 2 weeks after provincial finals
It appears that the further you progress in the provincial there is less preparation and recovery time
The beginning of the end for the provincial system
PatMustard
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So, let’s say we stay in Div 1. What incentive is there then, for us to go and win Ulster? Potentially 4 tough, hard games against the likes of Tyrone, Monaghan, Donegal and Derry?
We could just lose in the first round, and still be in the group stage later on anyway.
The alternative is we go like hell to win Ulster, be knackered, have injuries and suspensions for the group stage?
Instead of giving an incentive to win your province, there’s probably more incentive NOT to win it.
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PatMustard
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Maybe so.
On the other hand, we haven’t been in an Ulster final in 14 years. Yet, this year, realistically we could have ended up in an All Ireland final.
Next years Ulster championship will be seriously devalued. So it’s no longer the prize it was, nor is it essential to win to progress further in the championship. In fact, it’s probably a hindrance.
Guys, get real. The Ulster Championship is dead and this is the trojan horse to kill it. If we finish 5th next year for example, we would be mad to risk players in the provincials - it will become a glorified McKenna Cup before quickly dying. Teams that have a poor league will push but that is that. It's about time we had a Junior Championship also. Time to move on or else watch Kerry win another 40 AI's in the next century.
Apologies if I've gotten the new system wrong!!
Apologies if I've gotten the new system wrong!!
PatMustard
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The media are wetting themselves over that Dublin Kerry Game. Was average enough I thought. Some good scores from Clifford was about the height of it.
Galway have nothing to fear with that Kerry team.
Galway have nothing to fear with that Kerry team.
Big Jim
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Sold her to a travelling man in a transit van
Geezersleftfoot
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Proved right? They won ulster. They achieved more than us.
Meant more what they achieved in their performances. Yes they won Ulster and got to an All Ireland Semi final. So in essence they had a better year than Armagh.
They beat Tyrone team who were down to 14 men. Beat a very average Monaghan team and then beat Donegal in extra time. Then they got the weakest team left in Clare who were very poor.
If you look at Armagh performance against Tyrone and Donegal (in qualifiers not Ulster) then they beat both of them more convincely than Derry did.
Galway needed penalties to beat us (and yes I accept could Galway should have won more easily). But apart from first 20 mins Derry never looked like beating Galway and I thought it was very poor performance from Derry.
I had read countless articles within the media about Derry being the real deal and were serious all Ireland contenders. The point I was making was I never really bought into this.
Heck I actually believe thar Armagh are good bit better than thar Derry team
PatMustard
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I hope you didn’t accept a cheque again?Sold her to a travelling man in a transit van
northarmaghgael
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100%. Think the ending blew made the game out to be better than it actually was. Kerry should of had the game done and dusted by the start of the second half. Although Kerry will go into final as favourites and man for man they have the better team and would win most match ups I.e. gavin white will get the better of comer, Morley will get the better of Walsh. Think Galway midfield will be given more freedom than Derry gave them