Club Fixtures

What day would you like Senior club fixtures to be played on?

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Armaghball

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lumpitin said:
If it’s not broke don’t fix it. Cullyhanna wouldn’t be sitting today with an All Ireland had this proposal been in place. The current league structure works well in Armagh I feel. Look at down for example, teams playing senior championship yet division 3 football. Arva playing division 1 football in Cavan yet winning a junior all Ireland.

I think it should be the same throughout each county in Ireland where league and championship are matched to make the competition fair.

It would be madness for this proposal from cullyhanna to get the votes it requires.
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But it’s not suggesting that division 1 clubs could play junior.
 
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armaghlad

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Hoops said:
Must have been some craic in their changing room, county lads blaming the other eejits for getting the club relegated.

This is a really bad idea in my opinion. It hasn’t been an issue until cullyhanna decided it was one. Their team who got relegated was missing a lot more than just the county lads, and they had enough games with the county lads that year to stay up but couldn’t do it.

Armagh clubs haven’t exactly been dominating the scene once they get out of Armagh either, so it’s not even like we’re standing out for having these senior level teams in the intermediate grade.
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I would say Clans would have been the last team to have been in with a shout of success at provincial level but couldn’t due to COVID.

I think the set up we have now is adequate, change now would only be for the sake of changing.
 
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GAAGael

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lumpitin said:
If it’s not broke don’t fix it. Cullyhanna wouldn’t be sitting today with an All Ireland had this proposal been in place. The current league structure works well in Armagh I feel. Look at down for example, teams playing senior championship yet division 3 football. Arva playing division 1 football in Cavan yet winning a junior all Ireland.

I think it should be the same throughout each county in Ireland where league and championship are matched to make the competition fair.

It would be madness for this proposal from cullyhanna to get the votes it requires.
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I don't think Cullyhanna are saying to split it seperately. Just to not base promotion/relegation entirely on league performance. Monaghan have a system which works well. League and championship performance is taken into consideration with playoffs for promotion/relegation.
 
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Armaghball

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My issue would be with the timing of it. For talks sake Cullyhanna come bottom of the league this year but go on a run to the championship final. Harsh to expect the other clubs in a relegation battle to keep training for weeks before the play offs can happen?
 
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GAAGael

Active Member
Armaghball said:
My issue would be with the timing of it. For talks sake Cullyhanna come bottom of the league this year but go on a run to the championship final. Harsh to expect the other clubs in a relegation battle to keep training for weeks before the play offs can happen?
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It happens in countless other counties. In contrast, is it fair on Cullyhanna to be relegated from senior if they finish bottom of the league and reach a senior championship final/semi-final, where maybe granemore (for e.g.) finish mid table and are knocked out in the group stage of championship
 
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Armaghball

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GAAGael said:
It happens in countless other counties. In contrast, is it fair on Cullyhanna to be relegated from senior if they finish bottom of the league and reach a senior championship final/semi-final, where maybe granemore (for e.g.) finish mid table and are knocked out in the group stage of championship
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Yeah get what you’re saying. But if Cullyhanna lads had put half the effort in to staying up as they did with their latest run they wouldn’t have been relegated with or without their county men, Cullyhanna players would admit that themselves.

Also it is abit ironic that Cullyhanna bring this motion which if it had been in place for the last few years they very possibly would have stayed up via play off and never won that all ireland!
 
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armaghlad

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Realistically, it’s a motion designed to assist clubs that maybe rely heavily on their county players. Given that most clubs don’t have a single county player, let alone multiple, the fairest way to demote teams is via the league (IMO).
 
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Armaghball

Well-Known Member
armaghlad said:
Realistically, it’s a motion designed to assist clubs that maybe rely heavily on their county players. Given that most clubs don’t have a single county player, let alone multiple, the fairest way to demote teams is via the league (IMO).
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Cullyhanna with their county men would be a top 4 or 5 team in the county at least. If they can’t manage to stay in the top 14 without them then tough imo.
 
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GAAGael

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Armaghball said:
Yeah get what you’re saying. But if Cullyhanna lads had put half the effort in to staying up as they did with their latest run they wouldn’t have been relegated with or without their county men, Cullyhanna players would admit that themselves.

Also it is abit ironic that Cullyhanna bring this motion which if it had been in place for the last few years they very possibly would have stayed up via play off and never won that all ireland!
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Or maybe if they had a full compliment of players then, they would’ve stayed up - Cieran McCooey, Sean Og Irwin and Tony Donnelly have all recently returned from travelling - in addition to the county men. Monaghan have a good example of playing star games in the league. Star games where county players play are worth 5 points with non star games 3 points. Balances the playing field And has worked really well. Then again, the county manager has to allow players to play club football :rolleyes:
 
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Armaghball

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GAAGael said:
Or maybe if they had a full compliment of players then, they would’ve stayed up - Cieran McCooey, Sean Og Irwin and Tony Donnelly have all recently returned from travelling - in addition to the county men. Monaghan have a good example of playing star games in the league. Star games where county players play are worth 5 points with non star games 3 points. Balances the playing field And has worked really well. Then again, the county manager has to allow players to play club football :rolleyes:
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Yeah thats what I was getting at-they hadn’t full buy in for various reasons be it injuries/travelling etc- they couldn’t just claim it was because of county men being missing.
 
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Smallball

Active Member
If its just looked at as tough luck that you dont have county players and you should be fit to stay up anyway if your good enough then you would logically think that would lead to fringe players not guaranteed any playing time to leave the county team and go back to the club that have developed them and that rely on them to keep their senior/intermediate status. And i think this would definitely happen in this case as it cant be underestimated how much your club means to you as a player.

Im not saying i completely agree with the cullyhanna proposal but i definitely completely disagree with comments like if they are goid enough or worked hard enough they would stay up anyway
 
JoeH

JoeH

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stevie_06 said:
They only one by a point. Not a very competitive and entertaining game at all.

If only they won by 18 points Pat that would have been truly entertaining
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Excellent game - it was competitive and entertaining
St Brigid's were excellent but just couldn't create enough chances
Glen stuck in there and most would have thought that after kicking four wides early in the second half that they'd missed their opportunity
But they worked hard, went down correctly to 14 men, but eventually took their chances and Conor Glass goal was superb

We all have different perspectives
 
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stevie_06

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JoeH said:
Excellent game - it was competitive and entertaining
St Brigid's were excellent but just couldn't create enough chances
Glen stuck in there and most would have thought that after kicking four wides early in the second half that they'd missed their opportunity
But they worked hard, went down correctly to 14 men, but eventually took their chances and Conor Glass goal was superb

We all have different perspectives
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Actually thought keeper was badly at fault for Glass goal. He seems to come out to claim and changes his mind. That leaves him in no man's land and out of position to make the save
 
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POINTMAN

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stevie_06 said:
Actually thought keeper was badly at fault for Glass goal. He seems to come out to claim and changes his mind. That leaves him in no man's land and out of position to make the save
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I agree about the keeper - and you could see at the end of the game that he knew it too.

Glen were probably the better team but they nearly kicked themselves out of it. But credit where due, they hung in and got the win in the end ( some justice after last year's final).
 
PatMustard

PatMustard

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stevie_06 said:
They only one by a point. Not a very competitive and entertaining game at all.

If only they won by 18 points Pat that would have been truly entertaining
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You don’t see many 18 point victories now to be fair @stevie_06 . Not unless you’re playing with the wind in the big mushroom house, and it changes at half time.

The Saw Doctors wrote a song about it, so they did.
 
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