National Football League 2024

Armaghball

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Didn’t watch Galway vs Rossies but think both sides played very weak teams. Seen a couple of clips of nice scores, but we’ll see how open they are when they play each other in the league/Connacht.

Derry vs Donegal was unwatchable, weather definitely didn’t help though. Could we replace Clones with one of them circus tent things when we get Casement?
 

JoeH

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Derry at full strength bar Glen players
Donegal at 90% of their starting team
Conditions - wind and rain

Roscommon - 75% of their starting team
Galway - experimental
Conditions - Dry and no wind

Huge factors

I haven't seen what this version of utopian football people are looking for
The football is the best it's ever been and anyone who thinks the 70s,80s,90s was any good watch some of those games again
However I do think the recent years cycle of defensive football will evolve more this season - styles change cyclical
 

stevie_06

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Did you watch the game or are you just arguing for the sake of it?
No I didn't but from what I can gather the match was 'over' from very early on. Personally watching something so uncompetitive to the point it is an exhibition wouldn't interest me. The only exception is of course if it was Armagh. Admit every supporter would enjoy their team doing that and I'm sure Roscommon fans went home delighted.

How many scores is an irrelevant argument. If all 40 scores were by one team would you find that entertaining?
 

Armaghball

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No I didn't but from what I can gather the match was 'over' from very early on. Personally watching something so uncompetitive to the point it is an exhibition wouldn't interest me. The only exception is of course if it was Armagh. Admit every supporter would enjoy their team doing that and I'm sure Roscommon fans went home delighted.

How many scores is an irrelevant argument. If all 40 scores were by one team would you find that entertaining?
Maybe if it was us scoring them ;)

(Especially if it was against Tyrone)

At the end of the day it was a glorified friendly neither team will be reading anything into the result. Be a lot less between them later in the year obviously
 

Diarmi

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No I didn't but from what I can gather the match was 'over' from very early on. Personally watching something so uncompetitive to the point it is an exhibition wouldn't interest me. The only exception is of course if it was Armagh. Admit every supporter would enjoy their team doing that and I'm sure Roscommon fans went home delighted.

How many scores is an irrelevant argument. If all 40 scores were by one team would you find that entertaining?
So you are arguing with me about a game I watched and you didn't. You know it was over from early on, even though you didn't watch it. You know it was uncompetitive even though you didn't watch it. You finish by talking about if one team scored all the scores. That is possibly one of the stupidest posts ever on this forum. How can anyone take you seriously.
 

Diarmi

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Derry at full strength bar Glen players
Donegal at 90% of their starting team
Conditions - wind and rain

Roscommon - 75% of their starting team
Galway - experimental
Conditions - Dry and no wind

Huge factors

I haven't seen what this version of utopian football people are looking for
The football is the best it's ever been and anyone who thinks the 70s,80s,90s was any good watch some of those games again
However I do think the recent years cycle of defensive football will evolve more this season - styles change cyclical
I never mentioned football of previous years only that the spectacle of the modern game is atrocious.
 

stevie_06

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So you are arguing with me about a game I watched and you didn't. You know it was over from early on, even though you didn't watch it. You know it was uncompetitive even though you didn't watch it. You finish by talking about if one team scored all the scores. That is possibly one of the stupidest posts ever on this forum. How can anyone take you seriously.
Yeah your right. Clearly a game won by 18 points was highly competitive.

And apologies for the remark about the team scoring all points. I was completely unaware you can't comprehend a hypothetical situation.

Looking on the bright side following on from your post at least I am relegated to the 2nd for most stupidest ever on the forum
 

Hoops

Member
I never mentioned football of previous years only that the spectacle of the modern game is atrocious.
Blaming the modern systems lets the forwards off the hook an awful lot. When our forwards play well the games are great to watch, then with nothing major changing in the system but the forwards showing poor quality in their play, all of a sudden the games are painstakingly hard to watch and everyone’s blaming the system.

Galway are another good example of this. They were as defensive in 2022 as they were in 2023, but their forwards were way off the pace last year so their games were tough to watch for the most part.
 

JoeH

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I never mentioned football of previous years only that the spectacle of the modern game is atrocious.
I'll disagree with you on that

The technical skills, the game plans, match ups, patience, fitness are things I find intriguing
These are the best players (generally) competing against their counterparts in other counties.
These are the best players ever to play Gaelic football with the exception of players like Matt Connor, Frank McGuigan, Maurice Fitz and such likes
It's not possible to compare teams from different era's.
I do understand how it can be seen that some games are very hard to watch but that's just perspective.
The soccer across the shuck - pays players £100k plus a week and a lot of games are hard to watch. Some are excellent.
 

Diarmi

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Yeah your right. Clearly a game won by 18 points was highly competitive.

And apologies for the remark about the team scoring all points. I was completely unaware you can't comprehend a hypothetical situation.

Looking on the bright side following on from your post at least I am relegated to the 2nd for most stupidest ever on the forum
Oh dear God.
 

Diarmi

Well-Known Member
I'll disagree with you on that

The technical skills, the game plans, match ups, patience, fitness are things I find intriguing
These are the best players (generally) competing against their counterparts in other counties.
These are the best players ever to play Gaelic football with the exception of players like Matt Connor, Frank McGuigan, Maurice Fitz and such likes
It's not possible to compare teams from different era's.
I do understand how it can be seen that some games are very hard to watch but that's just perspective.
The soccer across the shuck - pays players £100k plus a week and a lot of games are hard to watch. Some are excellent.
I seldom watch soccer as I find it very boring much the same with a lot of Gaelic now. I can understand how some people are intrigued by aspects of the modern game but for me it loses it's entertainment value after a short while. Most games do tend to open up after a while but you can sit through a lot of tedious action beforehand.
 

stevie_06

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I seldom watch soccer as I find it very boring much the same with a lot of Gaelic now. I can understand how some people are intrigued by aspects of the modern game but for me it loses it's entertainment value after a short while. Most games do tend to open up after a while but you can sit through a lot of tedious action beforehand.
Shall we tell the children to play tennis
 

armaghtimmy

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I seldom watch soccer as I find it very boring much the same with a lot of Gaelic now. I can understand how some people are intrigued by aspects of the modern game but for me it loses it's entertainment value after a short while. Most games do tend to open up after a while but you can sit through a lot of tedious action beforehand.
Genuine question, its clear you have a gripe with the current management and the current state of Gaelic football in general, why bother watching it at all if it annoys you that much? Like if I found something that's boring the vast majority of the time I wouldn't annoy myself with it such as snooker or cricket or motorsport for example.
 

OneofTwo

Member
I seldom watch soccer as I find it very boring much the same with a lot of Gaelic now. I can understand how some people are intrigued by aspects of the modern game but for me it loses it's entertainment value after a short while. Most games do tend to open up after a while but you can sit through a lot of tedious action beforehand.

To be fair, outside of people who really love the intrigue of set up, tactics and football in general, the modern game is pretty dull, particularly at intercounty level. Large portions of the game are spent with north of 27 players in one half, playing low/no risk hand passes until someone dares to go off script. As a spectacle it is really poor. Exciting games are an anomaly not the norm.

I personally feel that a lot of us still watch it out of habit and romance. Most of us associate going to inter county matches with much more than the matches themselves, whether that is a family day out or big days with friends.

I will caveat the above by saying I fall into the category of someone that loves the intrigue, the set up and football in general so for me I don't mind it and will continue to watch but I don't for the life of me understand how my two young boys will ever find the current style of intercounty football exciting. They continue to ask to go because they love the buzz of the trip, the outing, the sweets and the craic. The football? Not so much!
 
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