Ulster Championship 2019 First Up It's Down 19th May

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bcb1

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niall1980 said:
The Hong Kong based player. Why not just say his name. We all know who it is don’t we
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Magical on the ball....
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Kem

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bcb1 said:
On Jamie Clarke, there has been no falling out. He went to America last year and played in the championship out there. He decided that his time travelling had be satiated and he had his hunger back. See this interview...https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/jamie-...make-you-proud-to-be-a-part-of-the-gaa-109999

So Jamie came back and his transfer from the Longford club in New York to ourselves was complete on the 8th November of last year, if he had an issue with the club or committing to ourselves he had the opportunity to go to whatever club in Ireland he wanted. We had no control over where he wanted to play and could not prevent him from transferring to another club. He returned to his home town club so obviously we were excited at the prospect of him lining out with the likes of the O'Neills who were really making the step up and Cian McConville who had just had his breakthrough. To my knowledge nothing has happened that should have changed that position. As can be seen by this article no one knows why he has decided to do this so as a club we will move on.

https://www.the42.ie/jamie-clarke-crossmaglen-4644237-May2019/
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I think we are making too big an issue of Jamie not playing club football in relation to any affect it might have on his county form. Am I not right in thinking that most of the Dublin players play little or no club football?
 
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bcb1

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Kem said:
I think we are making too big an issue of Jamie not playing club football in relation to any affect it might have on his county form. Am I not right in thinking that most of the Dublin players play little or no club football?
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I don't think many are making any issue about his form etc, I think it's more the issue that he is refusing to play for his club. many players don't play for their clubs or take a lesser involvement with their clubs during the county campaigns and then willingly come back to play. This is not the case here and he simply won't play for his club full stop.

As far as I know the Dublin players play very active parts in their club scenes.
 
William Of Orange

William Of Orange

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MrMaguire2002 said:
I've just read through all the posts since the final whistle on Sunday. Some excellent posts.

My thoughts on the game may be mixed but what mattered most was getting out of Newry with a win. Some people say this is the worst Down team in years. It is arguably every bit as strong as the team that made the Ulster final two years ago. For them Donal O'Hare was immense, Jerome Jonston, Gerard Collins and Ryan McAleenan were also impressive. As was Paul Devlin when he came on.

More importantly for us. There were a few negatives. Donaghy looked well off the pace of the game. For the first goal Hughes was in no man's land. Donaghy was in the FB position at the time. It was a poor performance by the both. Hopefully the next day both have a more assured performance. I'd still play Donaghy at 3. The biggest disappointment was Grugan. He should have been taken off much earlier. A lot of people ask why he is captain (myself included) but who are the alternatives? We lacked leadership the other day. The experienced men were our biggest concerns.

On looking at the game the other day leadership came from our two youngest championship debutants.

Jarly Og had an excellent game. He was an engine the whole game. He was however most much more effective after Mooney's dismissal. Admittedly he will get punished by better sides for carrying the ball into trouble but what an excellent championship debut. Bettered only by a fellow debutant - Rian O'Neill. O'Neill did miss some frees but I'll take a few missed frees all day if he's going to hit 4 from play and 4 frees. In O'Neill we have one of the best forwards in Ulster and soon very possibly in the country. Excellent performance.

I thought a previous post from someone from Crossmaglen was very harsh on Jemar Hall. I would start Jemar unquestionably for the Cavan game. A no brainer for me. Works so hard and although may not have had his best game for Armagh the other day for me he was decent and has been good right through the league campaign.

I would seriously consider dropping Grugan although it won't happen. Should he take dead ball early against Cavan and it goes like that he should be taken off. Nobody should stay on the pitch simply because they are captain. Hopefully the next day he improves. He needs to. Shields and Morgan should both start also.

Cavan Game:

Hughes

McKay Donaghy Morgan

Forker (McCabe/Vernon) Shields

If Grimley is fit along with Oisin O'Neill I'd start from midfield up with:

Burns Grimley

Campbell O.O'Neill Hall

Murnin R. O'Neill Clarke

Should the game come to soon for O'Neill I'd give Rafferty another chance. He did had a poor game the other day. I would drop Grugan but I cannot see it happening.

Tough on Kennedy to miss out.

Gavin McParland is a big miss IMO but we have a strong panel and hopefully we can make an Ulster final. It will be tough but we have every chance.
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Donaghy made the GAA.ie Team of the week
 
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Bert

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Bert said:
I think donaghy has got a bit of unfair stick to be honest
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Sorry, whilst he was at least at some fault for two of the goals I thought he was otherwise good. Drove us forward on many occasions. I don't think he's a natural full back and is certainly more effective at centre half back.

Morgan mixed some excellent tackling with some stupid fouling and needlessly carried the ball into traffic. Still, I would like to see him start against Cavan.

Rian O'Neill is just a footballing genius. Players like this don't come along very often so we need to make the most of the next decade. Look what Donegal have done with Michael Murphy. A different type of player but he's that good.

Burns was a big surprise for me. I wasn't expecting him to be as impressive. Brilliant to see. He has lots to learn and improve on and I can't wait to see how he gets on against Cavan's mckiernan.

Grugan has been very poor for a while now. He's very frustrating to watch as he can be excellent. A decent forwards coach could easily improve his performances. Get him further up the pitch and make him kick the ball forward.

We've a real chance of beating Cavan and who knows after that. To win an Ulster championship we will need to have oisin O'Neill, murnin and grimley fully fit
 
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I’m worried about the hype now surrounding Rian O’Neill. Some saying he’s one of the top players in the country.

Great performance no doubt, but the pressure will be on him to give a repeat performance. And he’s no longer a surprise package. Cavan will know what to expect and they will prepare accordingly.

Not trying to run the lad down, but let him develop his game, learn his trade, and hopefully he’ll prosper in an Armagh jersey.
 
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niall1980

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PatMustard said:
I’m worried about the hype now surrounding Rian O’Neill. Some saying he’s one of the top players in the country.

Great performance no doubt, but the pressure will be on him to give a repeat performance. And he’s no longer a surprise package. Cavan will know what to expect and they will prepare accordingly.

Not trying to run the lad down, but let him develop his game, learn his trade, and hopefully he’ll prosper in an Armagh jersey.
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Young Rian got 0-8 in his championship debut. Do you know else done that? His uncle Oisin. And he turned out alright didn’t he
 
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