Where are you hearing that mate? I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s a huge commitment for him
All Ireland series
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thehighballinlow
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If this is the case, is there anyone within armagh that would be in with a change of replacing him?
If not, who would people like to see?
Personally id like to see a malachy o rourke if and outsider or a finn moriarty if an armagh man.
Young manager that has won county championships and is making strides in down with carryduff.
If not, who would people like to see?
Personally id like to see a malachy o rourke if and outsider or a finn moriarty if an armagh man.
Young manager that has won county championships and is making strides in down with carryduff.
ShiftYa
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Why would the likes of Malachy O’Rourke take an assistants position under McGeeney?
I doubt they’d see eye to eye even it they were paired up.
Haven't heard anything about donaghy, but would understand as it's some traveling, sad to see him go if it's the case because I feel he was a big part of how we improved, there is zero chance of malachy O'Rourke coming in as a number 2, he is also a very defensive manager imo anyways, if we where to change I'd love if we gave the likes of donaghy or someone like that a chance
ragingbull
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I'm sure he would have tweeted saying about it
JoeH
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Which manager,(s) play offensive only?
Every single team plays defensive - 13-14 players behind the ball. Kerry v Derry the most hyped up player ever in David Clifford was back behind his own 14.
The ball is hard won, why give it away.
No matter who is managing Armagh next year the style will not change.
It will be defensive (make it hard for opposition to score)
Keep the ball until an opportunity arises
Quick breaks
Take advantage of the ludicrous mark for a free
These four points apply to EVERY team
Rule changes will be required but they will not make them as they will not differentiate between club and county games (except Hawkeye)
Every single team plays defensive - 13-14 players behind the ball. Kerry v Derry the most hyped up player ever in David Clifford was back behind his own 14.
The ball is hard won, why give it away.
No matter who is managing Armagh next year the style will not change.
It will be defensive (make it hard for opposition to score)
Keep the ball until an opportunity arises
Quick breaks
Take advantage of the ludicrous mark for a free
These four points apply to EVERY team
Rule changes will be required but they will not make them as they will not differentiate between club and county games (except Hawkeye)
ShiftYa
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Every team has always played defence but some managers certainly deploy more conservative/ extreme defensive systems than other.
Honestly think this point is ridiculous. Can you not differentiate the styles between Monaghan and Dublin as 2 different approaches?
JoeH
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14-15 behind the ball
Move the ball laterally
Keep the ball
Tell me a team that doesn't do this
ragingbull
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Crossmaglen
I admire crossmaglen for not doing it, but I'd argue they would be far more competitive for Ulsters and all Irelands the last few years had they been a bit more defensive.
JoeH
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Was really referring to which county teams but cross can do this but ultimately they suffer for not being defensive enough
ragingbull
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ShiftYa
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Giving the ball away has never been a strategy,
Same with lateral passing I doubt there has ever been a game where a lateral pass wasn’t made
These are two very generic statements you could lump them in with try to win your own kick outs and try to score all your shots
Agree almost every inter county team will filter most players back if the oppositions build up play is slow enough to let them, but how a Kerry does this where they’ll engage you high up the field compared to Armagh who mostly retreated to behind their 45 and wait is very different
So you think every county team in Ireland has the exact same style?
JoeH
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Don't have the same style but there are common themes as in
14-15 behind the ball
Move the ball laterally
Keep the ball
If a team is attacking and there's no clear opportunity they'll recycle the ball and move laterally across the pitch and try another route
They'll do this until an opportunity arises( mark, high percentage scoring opportunity etc) or the opposition pushes out and dispossesses
Opposition will defend in numbers to combat this and will have various setups depending on where the ball is etc...
No point in working hard just to 'kick it in'
A team that doesn't drift back will/should be punished by the number of attackers.
Admittedly some teams try to keep 1-3 attackers up the field but only works if the defenders stay with them.
Football style goes in cycles but I'm not sure what the next version will look like.
Rule changes may be required such as
- between both 45m lines a kick pass must follow a hand pass
- remove the advanced mark or limit it to inside the 20m line
- I'd like to see sideline balls changed to where the person taking it can take a standing solo and then normal play resumes
- goalkeepers should be permitted to kick the ball out of their hands to restart play but only from the large square.
We may need to look at adding another referee - too many marginal decisions going unpunished
Use a time clock - one less thing for a referee to use
A ball kicked over the bar should be awarded two points
A fisted effort one point
An effort from outside the 45m should be awarded with three points
A goal should be awarded five points
In the event of a draw the team with the most goals wins otherwise extra time.
Finally if the technology is there use it eg big screen in croke park
Let's award skills and put something in place that may push teams to change tactics and reward skill.
We will never be as fast as hurling but if we want more entertainment then there needs to be a carrot
Can't see the rules ever being changed in any substantial way, and why should they - can't think of many other sports that have have this kind of discussion? If we start to chop and change with the fundamentals where will it end up? Playing styles come and go and the game develops. I'd like to think innovative coaches and managers with a progressive vision for how the game should be played will come to the fore a bit more in the next few years.
ragingbull
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Dublin by 2 on Sunday
jpowell100
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I fancy the Dubs too, their bench will be the difference